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Excellent work, John. You've used and mangled the sound sources without letting it get contrived and you've maintained a very good atmosphere throughout. I'm a bit bothered by the second half and it's for easy-to-fix reasons. The slight build and then drop right before the guitar seems to fall off too abruptly; it interrupts the flow of the mood. By all means keep the build and the quick drop, but add a sound or something to smooth it over a bit. I also dislike the guitar sound. It's an excellent touch and introduces the beat very nicely, but the actual mixing seems a bit too close for my ears. Sounds too alt-rock song and not enough like an ambient game cue....toss some extra verb on the guitar and I'll feel better. Also in that last section where everything's going together, there's a synth pad or something that's just a bit too loud and it's pushing the mix up with an unnaturally big resonance. Maybe tone that down a bit? Overall some of your best work though. Tasteful, subtle, and soothing to listen to. Excellent piece. :happy:

Thats not entirely true. Its not just because Beethoven was "a rebel who broke rules". Rock and roll grew out of folk music more than classical music. That isn't to say that there was no influence -- European art music "thinking" had an impact on early blues and jazz, for example. But rock and roll did not grow out of a couple "art music" composers sayin' "forget these violins, lets get some guitars, bro" [insert heavy metal horns hand here]. There is however, a strong cross polination of the two right now. You have "indie 'classical'" groups like BUILD, groups like The Books, and composers like Missy Mazzolli writing "rock 'n' roll in tuxedos" (as Mario Davidovsky put it). Not to mention the impact and influence classical music has had on pop music -- Varese's impact on Zappa (or Joel Thome's reimagining of Zappa music with Zappa's Universe -- check it, Thome's a genious), Penderecki's influence on Radiohead (they claim to notate all of their music as they write songs). Or the impact Stockhausen had on The Beatles (or classical music in general, lets not forget that "All You Need is Love" has a bit o' Bach in there). Classical music also gets sampled a bunch -- Prokofiev's "Montagues and Capulets" (a.k.a. "Dance of the Knights) from his Romeo and Juliet can be heard in tracks by Sia, Necrophagist, Hollenthon, Blood Axis (yup, apparently metal heads like their Prokofiev), etc., Jay-Z has sampled Morricone and Pavarotti, Ludacris, Cameron, and Evanescence all sample Mozart's Requiem. Orff has been sampled by everyone and their mothers, as has Bach. The list goes on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, and on, etc.

This should be played on a digital piano linked to your console, as one of the pro levels of Piano Hero. Maybe you could sell it to Activision?

Im talking about the score, you are using finale? It has numerous functions to rescale, move staffs/systems around, modify symbols (slurs/accents... ) etc. Music itself was great! No comments on that

Heckelphone, Happy to comment here on your music. Firstly, I will say that I don't like atonal music much (it is likely due to the fact that it is foreign to me and nothing more I am quite certain). I don't hear this as atonal at all in most parts. I understand it somehow. I really like the themes you went with and the overall 'sense' that dissonance can bring about consonance. Regardless of how you "heard this in your head," or possibly even sometimes stumbled across some new ideas by accident (as we all do). The piece simply works. As a matter of opinion however, I feel that I should also point out that there isn't any dynamic to the work/draft/piece. All at one volume level... and not much room for error. If you were not shooting for humanistic, then well done. If you "were" trying to make this as if a human could possibly play this, then some more work could and should be done. In addition, the .mp3 format you mentioned earlier in your thread that you were coming up with sooner or later would be a VERY good thing. This will make sure all people hear the same thing at the same tempo. Between different computers and different third party midi players there are variances that one might not account for. Making this a priority in the near future to get it recorded to .mp3 format would be in my opinion, a good idea. All in all.. AWESOME! And uhm... Norby, 2 things... 1: Sorry your parents (or you decided to) named you anything that starts with "norb" and 2: It is so obvious you are jealous that is sickens me. Relax and improve upon your own skills rather than take out your frustration on a 10 year old. Truly sad. Now go away and stay away.