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Oh come on... get real you guys (and gals...). This IS an interesting thread, only that it never came to a conclusion due to silly bickering amongst members... So... a conclusion perhaps, if I may (though others may continue as they please): 1. There IS some good music today, but appear to be: a. Buried underneath loads of garbage floating around today b. Be ignored because it's too good for the audience (and the audience is stupid?!?!?!) c. It missing out because the composer(s) are not doing enough promotion themselves (or their publishers?) 2. There also seems to be a consensus on what needs be done. We should train/educate the audience. We, the composers, or others more fitting than us (but who, I repeat the question which only two replied). 3. There is a disagreement on why we compose music, or rather who we compose music for. There seems to be two camps here: a. We compose music for ourselves, we remain true to ourselves and we do not sell out for the shake of anyone (the audience, the publisher, money, or other). b. We compose to please others and take into account the general publics' opinion!

To the one of the most influential film composers of all-time, I salute you. You have inspired so many people to become composers. You introduced many of us to leitmotifs in film, and interpolated the melodies of Holst, Strauss, and Wagner in your music. Your 1977 film score is ranked as the Greatest American Film Score ever. http://connect.afi.com/site/DocServer/scores25.pdf?docID=222 You have inspired me to become the composer I am today! Happy Birthday John Williams!

"a. We compose music for ourselves, we remain true to ourselves and we do not sell out for the sake of anyone (the audience, the publisher, money, or other)." I see this position as a response to an argument that gets thrown around here (rather than a distinction between b.): that because modern music is less popular with audiences, the composers behind it have failed somehow. It is a terrible argument.

One more and the thread gets locked.