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I know, right? Kids these days throwing around words like 'matrices', 'maths' and 'semantics' like they know what they mean.

After I click "report a member", it says I do not have permision to do this.

Serial music is OLD. You're belief that it's a current trend is a testament to how little you know on the matter. Guys like Babbitt and Wuorinen were/are remnants of a tradition that lost out in 1960s. You have a lot of learning to do, it's important that you understand the historical significance of this development in the beginning of the 20th century, unless you're satisfied with sounding uneducated and presumptuous whenever the matter might come up.And no: 'tonalism' is not the 'main' aspect of music. Nothing is the 'main' aspect of music.

Yeah how dare people evolve things! Gregorian chant ftw

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Sorry, but this is nonsense. Schoenberg is the ultimate consequence of a tradition that ties back to Bach-Beethoven-Brahms

Not only does there exist the possibility of creating your own rules: it's absolutely mandatory. After the Matrix (which only serves to readily generate raw material), you're left asking yourself 'what the hell am I going to do with this?'. The 'teaching' of serial composition is a futile endeavor because as you probably gathered from Wuorinen's text, there really is no point of departure from what you read there (which is already milking Babbitt's techniques as it is). Dodecaphonic serialism isn't the only brand: one could easily work with a smaller pitch space and do other things than what Schoenberg did. It is indeed an older approach to writing music, not one that I have any intention of exploring further for myself, however it's good to have an accurate understanding of an important development in 20th century music. Curious, how does someone manage to 'disagree' with serialism? I couldn't wrap my head around that one.

What aspect of serialism is mathematical? Are you adding, subtracting.....multiplying? Dividing?

^^filthy commoner

'How do I get to the train station?' 'Don't'

in his sumptuous new york city mansion, charles wuorinen sits rubbing his aged, gnarled hands with a wicked smile atop his towering pile of ill-gotten riches, pondering to what new devious ends he can put the nefarious twelve-tone system invented his brethren in the academic illuminati.... to be continued