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I agree. This is a good idea. We should have the competitions 4 times a year. One beginning every three months. June-July-August (Summer Competition), September-October-November (Fall Competition), December-January-February (Winter Competition), and March-April-May (Spring Competition). This also coincides with school calendars on the US schedule. So, we will have more competitors in the Summer and Winter, which is fine with me. In this way, we can begin in June with the first big one, and have the whole summer to try this system out. In this way, we can do bigger projects. Like, a whole orchestral piece, or a song cycle... and have them be good. If there are people who want to do smaller projects, perhaps consider the alternative we had some success with twice in the past: the challenges forum. Where there might be a fugue subject and you're asked to complete the exposition. Or, where you're given a melody and told to compose a piece developing the motif.

I wrote this for Austenite, after reviewing the introduction to his recent organ piece, but it may prove useful and/or interesting to others, too. For any aspiring conductors, this is an example of how to properly read a score (that is: reading the musical meaning or sense from it), and for composers, observing the detail of this introduction and observing how its effects are created is the best way to learn to compose your own. If anybody has anything to add, please feel free. Typically, the introduction to a serious piece of music sets up the (or a) proposition, problem, idea, &c., that is to be elaborated upon by the main portion of the movement, just like the introduction to a speech or an essay. This is set up by the musical 'argument' of the intro, which creates and introduces this (or these) feature(s) through the form and momentum of its material. Tchaikovsky opens his fourth symphony: An ff fanfare is announced by the horns (beefed up by the bassoons). These seven bars contain three different kinds of material: the rhythmic figure on Ab of the opening two bars, the figure of bars 3 and 4 which lead to or around this Ab, and the downward leading quavers which begin in bar 5 and lead to the downbeat of 7. Now, inventing the opening rhythm is no great feat in itself, but observing its features and crafting the following music out of them makes for engaging music. 3/4: three crotchet beats in a bar, with the strongest accent on the first. Tchaikovsky's idea strikes the first crotchet beat, ties this over to the first quaver of the second crotchet beat (leaving out an attack), plays three triplet semiquavers on the latter part of the second crotchet beat, and slows these to two quavers on the third crotchet beat. The effect is that of a dominating first beat, with the remainder of the bar pushing towards the downbeat of the following measure, all on one note, Ab. Measure 2 repeats this gesture, pushing towards another strong dotted crotchet Ab on the downbeat of measure 3. The leap downwards in this measure to F, however, along with the shortened note value, pushes the accent one crotchet further, to the Ab on the second beat of measure 3, taking the accent off of the first beat of the bar and putting it on the second (note that this beat was not attacked in the first two bars). This new rhythmic gesture is repeated in bar 4, now with the triplets circling around the Ab. The fifth bar reinstates the first-beat accent (note the accent mark) on C (notice, also, the stepwise motion up to this C, created by the highest notes of each bar: Ab | Ab | F Ab | Bb Ab | C; this is a reflection of the three note triplet gestures F-G-Ab and Bb-Ab-G). Downward moving scalar quavers take up the second and third beats of this bar, creating a slight push towards the downbeat of the sixth bar, which pushes further by continuing the quaver motion, shifting the goal one bar further as trombones and tuba are added, to give weight to this goal. When this is reached in bar 7, two unexpected events occur: firstly, the downbeat goal (which we may have imagined to be Eb, if we imagined anything at all) turns out to be a chromatic note, E, which certainly grabs our attention; simultaneously, the trumpets and winds enter with the opening idea: The result is a bright and startling diminished fourth (note that, although this could be respelled as a major third, the tonal context up until that point—viz., four flats—marks this interval as surprising, as it contains a chromatic tone; it is dissonant in the sense that it is unstable). While the newly introduced instruments play the fanfare, the continuing ones set up a rhythmic dissonance by striking the second crotchet beat (which the opening bars of the fanfare don't attack) with a long held note (twice the length of the fanfare's long note), E. This E then expands outward to D and F, on the second beat of bar 8, creating a dissonant diminished chord with the fanfare's Ab. Both dissonances (harmonic and rhythmic) are resolved on the second beat of bar 9, as the fanfare pushes its accent onto the second beat of the bar, and the accompaniment moves its D to Db, creating a consonant major chord (note the lack of a tie between measures 8 and 9 in the accompaniment, marking that something new is about to occur). Compositionally, the progression of these three chords, E major-D diminished-Db major, is determined by common notes. In bar 7, where there is only two notes, E and Ab, the fanfare's Ab constitutes the common tone with the following three note diminished chord, D-F-Ab, in bar 8 (the fanfare's melody is the one being harmonised); these upper two notes, F and Ab, are the common tones in bar 9, as the bass moves to Db to create the major chord (note that, in this bar, Ab and F are the two tones in the fanfare). This progression does not imply an particular key, and we're left waiting until the end of the introduction to find out what the key might be. Like a fourth species counterpoint, the resolution lasts only long enough to be heard, and again moves to a dissonance, as the Db major chord becomes a 4/2 above Cb, creating another push. In bar 10, the fanfare, rather than leap up to Bb as in the original, repeats the F-G-Ab of bar 9. The 4/2 is struck again on the second beat, and the accompaniment then moves to Ab and C, creating a 6/3 above Ab on the third beat with the fanfare's Ab and F, again via common-tone chord connection. The following bar (11) provides a third iteration of the fanfare's F-G-Ab figure, creating a sense that something new is about to happen to break the motion and reach a point of rest: This time, on the second beat, the lower strings enter, joining the accompaniment as it moves to E and B (or Fb and Cb), creating another 'out of context' E major chord with the fanfare's Ab (notice the arpeggiation Cb-Ab-E/Fb, which is an enharmonically spelled E major chord); like the first time, this harmony sets off a rhythmic dissonance, as the fanfare becomes syncopated, striking off the beat (i.e., on the second quaver of each crotchet beat) as the accompaniment strikes on the beat. The repetitions continue and the tension builds through measure 12 towards measure 13; in a good performance, the tempo will fluctuate in this bar, creating the sense that a downbeat goal (on which all the instruments will come together) is coming on the first beat of bar 13. Rhythmically, we get this resolution on the anticipated beat, but the harmony once again moves from E major to D diminished, now with an added diminished seventh (Cb/B), as the upper strings and timpani enter, cutting the gesture off and thwarting its resolution. The winds and upper brass (all the instruments which introduced the first fanfare rhythm begun in bars 1 and 7; the bassoons now double at the unison, rather than the octave as in the original, due to the addition of other instruments in the upper register) go for a second try, by reintroducing the fanfare motif, but are again cut off by a dissonant chord, this time after only a single bar: As before, the D of the accompaniment moves down to Db and the upper notes are kept, but the newly added top note, B (from measure 13) makes the chord dissonant (this, in fact, is the same note that originally made this chord dissonant when it moved to a 4/2 in bar 9, but it is now in the soprano and occurs as a simultaneity, but that is merely an analytical observation). Another attempt at continuation in bar 16, this time from the horns alone (not even doubled by the bassoons), who introduced the motif originally; the dynamic is lowered to f (bassoons, when doubling, often get swallowed up by the timbre of the instrument they're doubling, especially as their register gets higher, and serve only to strengthen the sound; in the opening, a bassoon against two ff horns certainly does not shine through, and their omission here, especially in combination with the lowered dynamic, merely creates the sense that the opening's material has returned in weakened form). On the final quaver of the bar, the old tie appears, missing the downbeat by tying over into bar 17. The strings, also only f, punctuate this bar on the downbeat with a dotted minim (the length of the long long note, from bar 7), marking the rhythmic dissonance by creating another E major chord, this time in a weaker 6/4 position which pushes onwards by requiring a stronger harmony; both the fanfare and the accompaniment decrescendo again. The fanfare appears again in the horns, now only mf. The same tying on the final quaver occurs, and in bar 19 the strings again enter, with Ab and C in the accompaniment (as before) but now with an added E, creating a tensely dissonant augmented chord and pushing further. There is another decrescendo down to p; the fanfare strikes a crotchet on the third beat of this bar, compressing the space (note the detail: the strings rest on this crotchet), and ties this over to measure 20, where the accompaniment enters p, not with E/Fb in the bass as before, but with F and C (this makes the arpeggation of the 'seeking' string chords: Cb-Ab-F; three minor thirds, which will prove to be the three keys of the exposition), creating the first properly and fully consonant chord of the introduction with the fanfare's Ab: F minor (which will be the key of the symphony). The fanfare then decrescendos again, and for the last time strikes the third beat, linking into a rhythmically augmented version of the F-G-Ab figure in the clarinets and bassoons in measure 21. The F on the third beat of measure 21 does not lead straight to C as in the opening, however. A new motif appears, pp, in the form of an appoggiatura Db-C which, like the opening fanfare, is dwelt upon in three rhythmic forms as the tempo slows, before pausing on the final crotchet of measure 26, and leading into the first theme of the symphony in the following bar (the necessity of introducing this motif prompted the change of instrumentation in bar 21: the Db would be too high to reliably play quietly on the horns; a 2 clarinets and bassoons in octaves is a good substitute). At the pause, then, what we have in our ears, among other things, is the idea of F minor as a point of rest and a goal, the emphasis on the chromatic chord E major in a four-flat context and its correlation with rhythmic dissonance, the pull between competing accents and times, and the sense that the fanfare never reached a conclusion (as well as, of course, the motivic material of this section). Right at the opening of the first theme, we hear the rhythmic element come into play, with a very interesting idea which sounds like 4/4 with a bizarre extension at the end (the time is written as 9/8, but we hear strikes every crotchet; where you would expect the downbeat of 4/4, however, there is nothing, due to the dotted quaver): This goes on to be elaborated from bar 36, where the fanfare rhythm is referenced in the strings' accompaniment to the wind's presentation of the idea; the preceding two bars, 34 and 35, mount tension which leads to this repetition in bar 36 by converting the rhythm into compound time. When our old friend E major comes back in bar 42, however, the dissonance between the two times becomes overt, as our missing attack in the '4/4' bar is struck, but is not tied over into the following bar. This begins to build a tension which reaches its breaking point in measure 47, with the three accented quavers, and is released by chromatically changing the iv6 into a German 6/5 (through common-tone connection) and breaking out into a downbeat dominant in measure 48, with a Db-C motion in the bass. : The interplay between these ideas and the material which constitutes them characterizes the entire movement, and the seeds were planted, for this, in the introduction, which was carefully crafted to make every note count. When composing, conducting, playing, analysing, or whatever, it is important to consider every detail of our scores, perhaps even asking ourselves questions about the material or altering it slightly to observe the effect, if we don't understand something immediately. This is what constitutes true musicianship.

Nice, Austenite. We definitely want to be diverse. We should make sure to cover "odd ensemble" writing if we can. I've found that's important in my composition life. haha. Some suggestions: Tone poems (based off of stories/poetry), Seasonal, Educational ensemble, writing for kids, writing in old styles, inventing new forms, reinventing old forms, imposing limitations on pitch classes, imposing limitations on range. Those alone could carry you a whole year. hahah >.<

I think you just need one of the mods oks. Tell them your intentions, and then get to it! I think you should have only two judges. We have very few active members, and we want as many people participating as possible! There's also another possibility... what if, since we don't have prizes anyway, we had "group" compositions? Not like, I do one measure, you do the next. But, where we all do a similar type of composition, and then we all review each other's pieces. Without the pressure of winning, we might be able to create something different. And, then we don't take up spaces for judges, when we only have a handful of people who will participate anyway. This doesn't have to be forever. Maybe just until we get more members, and people see that participating in the competitions is fun and exciting. Another possibility? Just do it for one competition, and then go back to the normal system. I'm still just throwing around ideas. haha.

Well, here's the thing. Go to Wikipedia's main page "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page". Then, on the left column, click on "Random article". Check the name of the article. This title will generate your musical material. Follow these steps: 1) From the title, get all the letters that have equivalents in our musical system (C = do; D = re; E = mi etc.) Ex1: Article title: "Del Hall". I'll get: D, E, H (if adopting german system), A. Ex2: Article title: "Last Days of Humanity". I'll take "A, D, A, F, H, A". 2) Each note will have the same length: one beat. If we have letters that do not correspond to any notes, we must add the quantity of letters in beats to the previous musical note. Spaces mean pause. Ex1: "Dell Hall" > D, E, H, A > D (1 beat), E (1 beat + 2 beats, due to the "L", "L" after it), pause (1 beat), H (1 beat), A (1 beat + 2 beats, due to the "L", "L"). So, having: D1, E3, Pause1, H1, A3 (the number is the duration). Ex2: "Last Days of Humanity" > "A, D, A, F, H, A". The first letter has no musical note, so it'll be a pause of 1 beat. Pause1, A3, D1, A4, F1, H3, A4. 3) Use the result as your theme/motive/subject and make a musical composition from it. You can also divide all the note values, so that you'll not have beat > beat > beat all the time, but beat > off-beat > beat > off-beat. 4) If there's a number in the article title, interpret it as an interval from the previous note. 5) If there's any kind of diacritics on a letter, consider it an accidental (chose it freely). 6) Read the whole article and try to make it's content be the main idea of the composition. It'd be also nice to put the compositions name after the article. 7) On the bottom of the page, there's an "Uptade date" (like: This page was last modified on 3 February 2013 at 15:50.). Try to get the time signature(s) from this line, freely! (ex: 3 February = 3/2; 2013 = after 20 bars, I'll change it into 13/8; at 15:50 = the tempo will be "155 bpm"). Be creative. There are no deadlines or prizes or winners. This is just a fun/algorithmic way of composing music when run out material! If you have enough spare time ti try this, share with us the precedures you've taken on each step^^ Anyone want to give it a try? :D

That is the most creative kind of melody mining since looking at an old test's awnsers. Good job! I'l definately do it

Here's one idea for the competitions problems: - Let's REDUCE the number of competitons once more, like just 4 of them per year (one for each season), or three, maybe two (one for each semester) of even just one. - Then we could also designate previously the instrumentation for each competition, for example: if we decide for 4 competitions (seasons), then we could always have one for full orchestra, one for chamber group, one for solo instrument and one "surprise" (different each year). - Definitely add the Winner's folder. - We could also add a poll-like rating system for the community to judge together with the judges. I believe that people will give more value if we have fewer competitions. The composers will also prepare themselves better for the competitions, as they will be expecting it already before... What do you think?

I've been absent from the forums for the past month or so... I've been so busy! but thankfully my schedule is easing up, for that reason I'm extended the due date to June 13th (Friday the 13th DA DAD DUHH). I'll be more active in my push to get members to join in, hopefully that will encourage participation. Thanks guys! matt

But, why would you want to keep the reviews for unwanted pieces? If I want to delete a piece, I'm not going to be concerned about the reviews. Also, the 'update' workaround means that the site is left with many pieces with pointless reviews because the user has deleted all their files.