Leaderboard

This is the 3rd movement of my Clarinet Quintet in C minor, which is completed 4 years ago and I'm revising it. Thx to my friend Vince @Thatguy v2.0 for making the audio! Here is the pdf, audio, video of the movement. I have also made a structural graph since this movement is a fugal one and I want to show the structure more clearly. https://youtu.be/QMQyFbriSmM (For YT)Clarinet Quintet in C minor 3rd mov Final Version 20260906.pdfClarinet Quintet in C minor 3rd mov Final.mp3Clarinet Quintet 3rd Mov Structural Plan.pdf To me this is core movement in the piece and my favourite. After 2nd movement's anxious power I finally calm down to reflect subjectively and (more)objectively, which are represented by Lament and Fugue respectively with the following structure: 0:00 1st Lament, using the despair [0134] motive again, then incorporate the (future) fugue subject in the clarinet while strings keep lamenting, and ends with one more question of despair. Real lament after what is suffered in the first 30 minutes of the work. 1:10 1st Fugue. Appearance of prime form of the subject. I always go for F minor in any secondary themes or answer in my C minor works because G minor is always too weak for C minor. Only F minor is dark enough for it. First stretto in 3:05. Ends in F minor with angry despair. 4:03 2nd Lament. A complete new part for this movement added only in this final version, sounds more dissonant than anything else in the movement, further intensifies the pain. 5:00 2nd Fugue. Using the retrograde form of the subject as main subject, denoting the backward reflection of me on despair. The flow here is also more fluid. [BACH] in viola in 6:56. Prime subject joins again in 7:16 to have stretto with the retrograde subject. Ends in F minor again with augmented subject in 8:07. 8:25 3rd Lament. My favourite of the movement, the sheer pain especially in 8:41-9:00 always aches my heart. But human beings only change after pain and I am no exception, so after this painful passage some hope is finally invited to the party to modulate to E flat major for next part. 9:40 3rd Fugue. Using the inverted form of the subject as main subject, denoting the complete upside down of thought from despair to hope. Later the retrograde inversion form of the subject enters in 11:08 to represent even further distance from despair. The climax in 11:48 is the most hopeful passage in what's happened in the entire Quintet up to this point. But after it doubts continue to enter. Despair starts invading in 12:42, and in 13:18 the prime form in tonic c minor enters in a subconscious Viola entry plus an augmented 2nd violin entry. I think a lot on whether to extend the transition or not, but finally I just decided to keep it this way since an early defeat of hope can represent the cruelty of despair and the weakness of hope more. I love the sheer pain here, and the return of prime subject on cello in 13:40 means the struggle of hope is futile. An E flat major prime entry on Clarinet try to struggle once more but falls to despair again, a final prime subject on cello in 14:11 announces the defeat of hope. The section ends on a German Sixth chord to leave the music suspended. 14:36 Final Lament and coda. Solo by Clarinet, wants to escape by quoting the dream motive in G flat major like in 1st movement but has to accept despair. In 15:19 the opening returns to remind unsettled affair. In 15:36 all four forms of subject appear for a final conclusion and lament and acceptance of despair and tragedy. Only by acceptance you may recover from it. The biggest change I made in this revision is the addition of 2nd Lament and repetition of 1st Lament. This is my original plan but with the bad sound sample I deleted them in my final draft. But now with Vince's great rendition I think it's better to retain them and extend the Laments to match the overall narrative structure. I also change the entrance order of the instrument, some counterpoint and details here and there etc. In terms of fugal treatment I make use of all four forms (prime, retrograde, inversion and retrograde inversion) of the same subject to denote the ups and downs, thinking backward and forward of me, so they are not merely fugal devices but also have narrative function. Hopefully you enjoy the movement, feel free to criticize it and leave comments here. It's a long movement and a long description, and I gratefully thank you if you listen and read till the end! P.S Here are YC posts of previous movements: 1st Mov: 2nd Mov: Henry

Hello @Woofi_9, since you are (relatively) new at this forum, first my warm welcome! Whenever one posts an unfinished piece – what I think is here the case due to the title and the plenty bars at the end with rests only – there is a good chance to receive rich feedback with usually polite suggestions for improvement. So I very appreciate @MK_Pianos explanations on „Melody and Harmony“ which are not only intended and useful for you, but for all readers of the forum. I can’t compare myself to him because I don’t have an entire „tutorial“, but only a repost with some considerations about „Rhythm and Texture“ which, I think, supplements Mason’s explanations. I intentionally just did not listen to the piece and am focusing only on that I am seeing in the score, trying to formulate my concerns and suggestions – however the piece might sound fine. A string quartet consists of four individual instruments, usually playing a single voice (and, furthermore, of four individual humans). Thus, it perfectly fits for a four-part-voice leading where each voice is „independent“ and „equal“ to each other. Such kind of music is called „polyphonic“ or even „counterpuntal“ music – the opposite to a musical „style“ that consists of a (prominent) melody voice and (subordinate) accompaniment. I think, your piece is a kind of this approach. However, we do need a memorable melody and rhythm, often called a „theme“, which is played multiple times (sometimes unchanged like in a canon or fugue - or otherwise slightly altered) by all instruments throughout the piece. So the role, which instrument is most prominent and which are the accompanying ones changes, finally creating variety. And there I’m coming now to my concerns or „criticism“: I can’t recognize such a memorable „theme“ which I would usually expect at the beginning of the piece in the upper voice. Instead, the Violin 1 has a somewhat repetitive texture with repeated half notes for the first 6 bars. Although the piece has enough distinctive textural motifs (each one bar long), they are not distributed well enough between the voices resulting in that the same motif is repeated too often by the same instrument (for example, the Cello in bars 9-14). My suggestion is, to take the one-bar motifs and create a „theme“ from them. In the example below, I have taken two passages, snippet them out and glued them together to create such a „theme“ from then which I would consider to distinctive enough. (Note, that I didn’t take care of the melody, i.e. the pitches and didn’t bother how it would sound, it is a rhythmic or textural example only). I would start with that „theme“ in Violin 1 and would repeat it at least two times (or better three times to involve all four instruments) thereafter by other voices. The other instruments should than apply rhythmical motifs which are contrary to that bars of the theme, meaning where the theme has a slow motion, the other instruments should have the faster motion – and vice versa.

Hello. A brilliant piece of work. I have to say I really liked it. It strikes me as fresh, well-crafted and natural all at once. I think the three movements complement each other. There’s just one thing I wouldn’t have done – though this is purely a matter of personal preference – and that’s repeating the opening section in the first movement. I know it’s a sonata, but this sort of piece, with such an ‘progressive’ musical character – constantly adding new elements and moving forward – doesn’t need a literal repetition. Besides, the length of the movements is just right. The first movement reminded me very much of one composer: Charles Ives. Mind you, I’m not drawing a direct parallel, as that composer’s textures were quite intense. Well, one always tries to find points of reference. And I love Ives. I found the second movement beautiful – nostalgic at first, and reflective in the second part. And the third… I liked the twist you’ve introduced here, which (this time, YES, in my view) is a neoclassical-neobaroque homage. Congratulations on your work.

Hello, Wow, there was a lot to listen to. I listened to the first two movements, and I realized that the third movement you have already posted. I did not look at your introductions prior to listening the piece. I saw a previous poster mention that the 2nd movement was devastating. That was it. So I went in blind. I can see now the meaning/introduction behind your pieces, which is always interesting to do after listening to something blind. I liked the second movement the most. I would not use the verb devastating. I personally had this really heavy feeling in my chest as I listened to it. There was sort of crushing feeling that I got from the piece. I followed along the sheet music and wrote comments here and there. For measure 62 I wrote nice, it almost sounds a bit Chinese? Being Chinese myself, I can't help but notice parts of music that sound even remotely asian. I really liked measure 78 to 81. I also really liked measure 117 to 120. The first movement is a bit bananas to me. I also followed on the sheet music and wrote notes from beginning to end. The song starts of sort of in a heroic sense, very exciting to me. Measure 36 was a bit of relief in the sense that my ears got some easy to follow musical ideas. Throughout the song I could hear tidbits of what I can assume is the main theme. So, perhaps I am getting better at listening to your style, or it was simply more obvious for this piece. I wondered if measure 110 was actually playable? On measure 342, I wrote "nice". Overall, these three movements seems to have this natural cadence to it in terms of rhythm and overall direction (up/down etc). However, 70% of the time the harmonies are just really confusing. It has this sort of unsettling effect to listen to. It almost feels like someone breaking the rules of music harmony on purpose and just enough to troll around. But once in a while, there is this really nice moment where perhaps the preceding dissonance really sells that moment, and the pay off seems worth it. I personally prefer your slower compositions. I don't know that I would voluntarily listen to movement 1/3 ever again. However, I think I would want to listen to movement 2 more. I really like it. I don't think that I've really listened to a lot of music that has your particular style. Could you cut some stuff out and tighten movement 2? Sure, I am listening to it, the feeling of chest tightness comes back. And as I listen to movement 2 again, there is this sense of sweetness to the piece. How can something be crushing and sweet at the same time? I don't know, but I think you wrote something that captures that feeling.

Hello everyone! I decided to wrap up and record at the piano a short waltz theme that I posted in the "incomplete works" forum recently. I found the theme quite complete by itself so I ended up adding only a coda (relatively long, so it works also as a second theme in some way). I also modified some harmonies, inner notes, and decreased the tempo quite a lot (from 120 to around 90) since I think the theme sounds better like that (and the coda would not work at a fast tempo). The sections are: m.1~16: A theme (antecedent) ending in HC m.17~32: A theme (consequent) ending in PC m.33~49: Coda (based in initial quarter note motive) I tried to record it in one go (instead of doing several takes and mixing them together) so I also share the video I took. I was planning to practice it for longer, but the trill is quite hard and I realized that if I want to play it perfectly, I probably need to go back to it in the future after several months. Also, I played it quite okay every time... until the camera was on, then random mistakes started happening hahaha. As a result there are some mistakes, particularly in the dynamics, trills, and in the coda, where I rushed too much (on top of that, I accidentally played a wrong note too). The audio for both the score and live videos are the same. Thank you and any feedback is more than welcome!

I finally finished! I thought we were supposed to adapt the poem to be sung, so that's what I composed. For voice and piano trio! Attached is the link to the youtube video, as well as the pdf of the score and the mp3 audio. So on a bright summer day.mp3 So on a bright summer day.pdf

Score PDF and Audio Download About the Piece: This piece is written for 4 soprano saxophones. It has three movements: “La soie,” “Le ciel,” and “Le soir.” Each movement is based on a stanza from the original poem by Paul Verlaine, “Donc, ce sera par un clair jour d'été.” ______________________________________________________________________________ I - La soie (The silk) ______________________________________________________________________________ II - Le ciel (The sky) ______________________________________________________________________________ III - Le soir (The evening) ______________________________________________________________________________

Hi! New here, just trying this out. This is a composition on piano I made like a year ago just as a sort of writing practice thing to see what I could do without using the tonic A Minor chord. Hope you enjoy! (Also prob not gonna share the sheet music here since i didn't have the playability in mind and the notation is god awful and this is one of the first times I used a DAW to produce the music lmfao) Azalea.mp3

I thought that was lovely! This captures a pop/rock vibe that gives the piano a lot of drive and motion. The mysterious chords at the start do an excellent job of setting up the dramatic section (starting at 37 secs). You nailed it with that powerful section, and the music really gave me nostalgia for the video game Donkey Kong Country 2, which contains some of the best music ever composed for a Nintendo game (composer: David Wise), so in my book you’re doing great! I think this music could shine even brighter with the layering in of other instruments, especially bass and percussion. A simple beat with bass layered over this could take the whole thing to another level, and it may even open you up to adding more layers. As an example, check out this song from Donkey Kong Country 2, and notice the difference between the beginning (which has no percussion) and the section where percussion comes in (1:09). Both sections are great, but the introduction of the percussion really juices up the vibe. And your music reminds me of this song, a song I’ve always cherished. Would love to hear more from you. Cheers!

I honestly had to take some time away from reading this post to fully absorb what it was that you were trying to say LoL. So the first thing is (and what I also told Fruit hunter) is that these kinds of awards cannot be created because every member of the website would want an award created for their name "The Fruit hunter Award of Excellence", "The TristantheTristan Award", "The PeterthePapercomPoser Award", "The Chopin Award", "The Henry Ng Tsz Kiu Award" etc. etc. etc. These kinds of awards would be meaningless and wouldn't bestow any kind of honor or significance to those they would be given to. The other problem is that awards are still bestowed by the staff so there would be a logistical challenge since you'd always have to ask a staff member to bestow the award to someone for you. Finally - you do have a good idea hidden in your post - the idea of having an award for a good Theme and Variations. Now you'd just need a good concept for such an award and what kind of graphic might fit such a concept. Thanks for the idea!

@Kvothe Please don't spread misinformation like this about the contest entries. The piece is 6 and a half minutes long and therefore meets the duration requirements of being between 3 - 7 minutes long. The piece is also written for a quartet of saxophones which is an acceptable instrumentation as the competition is for 3 - 5 individual instruments.

I finished my piece! Saxophone Quartet no. 2 - Un clair jour d'été It's written for 4 soprano saxophones. Each movement is based on a stanza from the poem.

@CrystalCanon, @Grant Weep, thanks for sharing music! Both of your suggestions are great! As for the pronunciation of "Lithl", it's similar to lith-el. It goes like how Google Translate pronounces it. However, don't take that seriously, because it is more important to be recognized by you rather than whether the pronunciation is right or not, so please pronounce as you like! By the way, this time, I will suggest this piece by Vasks - String Quartet No. 5: II. So distant... yet near. Also, Rautavaara's Concerto for Birds and Orchestra. I’m looking forward to seeing what suggestion will appear next :)

Dear fellow composers, I’m pleased to present you today my submission to the YCF 2026 Summer Competition! I must admit, that the task of the competition was really challenging, starting from „Nothing“ and than get the right ideas for „Something“ that is reminiscent to the mood of the summer day as expressed by Paul Verlaine’s poem. The challenge. When a composer has trouble coming up with a brilliant idea for a new piece, it sometimes takes several attempts, each of which yields different individual ideas. And there are some pieces that consist of several ideas that have been “glued” together, ultimately resulting in something like a “collage song.” I’m thinking, for example, of “A Day in the Life” by the Beatles or “Band on the Run” by Paul McCartney and Wings. However, there also exists such a kind of piece in Bach’s Welltempered Clavier, the Prelude VII in E-flat major, BWV 852. That particular prelude starts with a short section with runs of 32th notes, followed by a „more serious“ part in slow motion, that reminds me at a „chorale“. The third and longest part is a fugato with two subjects that further develops the ideas from the first two sections. So with this particular Bach prelude in mind, I had thus found the model for my own prelude, which serves as the „sketch“ for the quintet finally presented here as my submission. I always start to compose the pieces for piano in order to – on the one hand, have another piece for my preludes and fugues project, and on the other hand, because I find it to hard to mix the two phases of „composing“ and „orchestrating“ together. So I have posted the piano version as a standalone piece "Prelude XXI in B flat major" on the „Piano Music, Solo Keyboard“ thread. The poem. When I came around to the second part, the “Chorale” section, I faced the challenge of treating the upper voice of this four-part harmony as the melody for a musical setting of the poem. Since I don’t speak a word of French and have no idea how the syllables are rhythmicized, I looked at Gabriel Fauré’s setting of the poem in his Op. 61, No. 7 to find out which words are pronounced or sung briefly and which are longer. As an interesting fact, I discovered that Fauré had actually chosen the same key, B-flat major, that I had chosen before. The instrumentation. Now that the decision had been made to set the poem to music, I wondered how I could orchestrate it so that it would sound like a French “chanson.” My first thought was to choose the accordion as the main accompanying instrument. And since I wasn’t sure, I Googled: “What are the typical accompanying instruments for a French chanson?”—and sure enough, “accordion,” “guitar,” and “piano” came up. In addition to these, and to take advantage of the possibility of a quintet, I use a trumpet and a cello. Both of these instruments are capable of contributing different timbres (the cello either played with a bow or pizzicato, and the trumpet either muted or unmuted), and during the poem stanzas, I always use the muted trumpet as a substitute for the human voice. The title. Another challenge. A title in French would be appropriate, but I do not really trust translation programs in such delicate situations, since I don’t understand the nuances of the possible result. Thus, I’ve chosen the simple title „Summer – A Song of Beauty and Melancholy“. The latter since the piece features more passages in minor than in major and, therefore, does not only express the joy and beauty of the summer day, but is somewhat melancholic, too. Form and structure: 00:00 (mm. 1-14) The first section is an „improvisation“ which introduces the warm key of B-flat major. 00:34 (mm. 15-29) The second Adagio section could be a „chorale“ and is used to set the first stanza of the poem to music. 01:31 (mm. 30-90) The third and longest section is a fugato based on two subjects, interspersed by further stanzas of the poem (second stanza 02:18 at mm. 48-63 and third stanza 03:37 at mm. 75-90). The first subject quotes the first four-note motif of the „improvisation“ section and develops it further, paired with the second subject, thus creating a joyful and dance-like mood. 04:22 (mm. 91-114) The piece finishes with a coda – or better to say – with a recapitulation of the „improvisation“ from the first section. Now in a more melancholic way, meandering between minor and major. I hope, you’ll enjoy it. Wieland Finally, as a kind of „non-AI proof“ I also attached my „working score“ from which the MIDI is generated. It is nearly unreadable and of cause not intended for playing but shows in detail all dynamics, articulations, agogics etc. I applied to achieve the final recording. Praeludium-XXI-B-flat-major-accordion-mix.mp3 Praeludium-XXI-B-flat-major-accordion-with-coversheet.pdf WORKING-SCORE-P21.pdf

Great thread Lithl. Lots of good stuff here. By the way...how do you pronounce your name? Is it...lith-el? Like "little" but with a lisp? At least that's how I say in my head when I see your name pop up. Please correct me if I am wrong! I will share one guy....this guy is incredible. I drew inspiration from him in writing my own music.

Haha... well I've listened to Mahler's second symphony while working out at the gym, so there! The prelude for guitar is lovely, by the way! It reminds me a bit of Scarlatti, though maybe it's because of my lack of exposure to this particular style.

@Luis Hernández and @Seni-G it's neat that Charles Ives came out in the discussion, because I was definitely reminded of his work when listening to the sonata, though I forgot to mention it. A lot of pieces of the aesthetic puzzle fit together with Ives' influence in mind!

The allegro below was an earlier movement for a wind quartet (back in 2019) that now contains lots of revisions. At the time, I thought it was 'perfect' but almost 10 years later, evidently it was not! 😬 Second movement recycled from another standalone piece I had made for wind quintet originally. The Rondo is a work in progress. Currently working on the C section (minor). I quite like the theme... think it is catchy. String Quartet in C (Allegro).mp3 String Quartet in C (Second Movement).mp3 String Quartet in C (Rondo Idea).mp3 String Quartet in C (Allegro).pdf String Quartet in C (Second Movement).pdf String Quartet in C (Rondo Idea).pdf

Thanks @Lithl & @CrystalCanon Do not disparage your contribution to discussion on this forum, Lithl. Your feedback is as important to us as anyone else here. The second movement is indeed different. To some extent it is more stylictsticaly reminiscent of earlier galant chamber music, particularly in my use of the initial bass pattern that contains semiquaver passing notes. This is quite common in, for example, the chamber music of Carl Abel (a close associate of JC Bach) of late 1750s & early 1760s: But structurally it is quite different and in my view more akin to a fantasy - more liberal with greater meandering in the development and license in the recapitulation. I leave it to other's to determine whether it is a good fit or not... after all it was composed initially as a standalone piece that I thought would complement this suite. Listen carefully to some of the bass motifs at cadential in Abel's flute concerto in the below video (first piece) to see what I mean:

Exactly! Some of the best chorus' of Bach's festive cantatas, with the splendor of the full baroque orchestra, are in 3/8. I personally recommend that of Vereinigte Zwietracht der wechselnden Saiten, BWV 207, for which he reused the first movement from his Brandenburg Concerto no 1. Such clever stuff! I listen to it while working out in the gym... I must be the only one in the world doing that 🤣

@Lithl Thank you kindly for the review! The kids are doing great, thanks for asking. That was a picture of my oldest some when he was a newborn, and now he’s a tween. Time flies. I’ve never heard of Kapustin but I’ll definitely check him out! @Luis Hernández Good call about dropping the repeat in the first movement. I left it in because I wanted to keep that classical sonata form, but maybe it should be an optional repeat. And thank you for the Ives comparison. I have always felt a certain kinship with Ives. He achieved so beautifully what I long to achieve: a prolific quantity of ear-stretching music that never breaks away entirely from classical harmony and form. I appreciate the comparison!!

Thank you, for that example. I find it interesting, that phrygian and lydian fit so well together. I usually thought that was caused due to they are the both „extremas“ in mood – lydian the brightest one and phrygian the darkest (if taking the unusual locrian away ...). But the occurrence of all 12 chromatic steps in this combination was new to me and might be the better argument. There is, perhaps, another example for the usage (or even abuse?) of modes within a piece of tonal music – which I think is merely used for „technical reasons“: Transposing a fugue subject, which is initially major or minor, to one of the other modes. I first heard about this “trick” when I read an in-depth analysis of Shostakovich’s fugues (Op. 87) in comparison to the fugues from the “Well-Tempered Clavier”: Shostakovich often uses fugue subject entries in modes, whereas Bach does not. Ever since then, whenever I encounter harmonic problems with my fugue subjects while creating the counterpoint—especially when composing strettos—I always try to figure out whether I could alter some of the pitches in the original subject so that they fit better with the respective harmony or key, but by no means arbitrarily; rather, in such a way that the subject is “correctly” transposed into one of the other modes. Here is a short passage of the fugato in my Prelude XXI in B flat major, whichs tonality in the four bars is around G major (with also harmonies in C minor and D# major). However, the four subject entries in this stretto consist of Subject 2 in G major (soprano) Subject 1 in G major (alto) Subject 1 in B phrygian (tenor) and Subject 2 in A flat lydian (bass) which altogether finally stabilize the above mentioned G major tonality of the section. (Interestingly, there is also a combination of phrygian and lydian here – while not on the same pitch). p21--bars-65-69.mp3

@Wieland Handke Thank you for taking time to listen and provide such thoughtful feedback! I liked the idea of making preludes in the style of rotating circle of fifths, but with my own twist. For example, the 3rd prelude being both the G Major and E Minor prelude (like two mini-preludes combined into a small "whole" prelude), and playing around with ending pieces on 9ths, (so B Major in 9th prelude ends on B#, leading to the C# minor ending, which was planned from the 1st prelude). A lot of this was written with a "let's see where this goes" mentality. I like the feeling of writing music as though it's part of the creation process. A lot of times when I write music, it feels like I take the first step or two, and then the music (which is starting to form it's own "person") makes its own suggestions of where it wants to go, and back and forth, until it's finished. (And you're right, I really need to add a few clefs to certain ledger lines so it's easier to read!) @Grant Weep Thank you as well, for giving your thoughts and feedback! I like adding different levels of "spice" to my music. One day, I want to write some over-the-top spicy music, but I find it really hard to do so, because I want to write music that's both accessible and deep, and the more spice that's added, the more difficult it is for it to be accessible as well. That's a challenge that's on my to-do list to attempt. I actually can play these pieces! If I practiced, anyway. I haven't bothered to perform any of my own pieces -- it takes a great deal of work and repetition. But these are in my technical ability, yes. I occasionally do give descriptive names to my pieces, but these days, usually they are just given generic names. But sometimes I do have certain specific inspirations, ideas, or stories as to why a piece got created, or it's written the way it is. For example, I was having terrible writer's block as early as the 4th prelude. So, here I was, trying to get literally anything going -- making a series of preludes, and I'm already stumped at the 4th one, with nothing rattling around in my noggin. After a while, I thought, "what about musically portraying "beating head against wall?" So, super loud, brick wall octaves buffeted by crashing wave arpeggio figure? It felt weirdly right, and honest, and I just went with it. I mean, that isn't what the music's "about", but it's what inspired its existence. 5th prelude, I saw a cat on Instagram named Merv who could summon the demon "Bagagwa", and it amused me so much that it was the inspiration for the 5th prelude. Ms 8, lyrics are, "Who will sum-mon Ba-gag-wa?!" Cracks me up every time I hear it. 8th prelude, I started thinking of key words that I wanted to portray and bring to life. So, the 8th one was "fury". The 9th prelude, the key words were "space" and "void".

Thank you @Grant Weep for your thoughtful and detailed response to this music! I really appreciate the time and care you took in giving your feedback. I agree that the first movement is bananas! And yes I do enjoy bending the rules of harmony and stretching the ear a bit, but within the context of classical harmony and form. I feel like that sort of exercise sets expectations up in the listener’s ear (they expect to hear clean cadences and traditional harmony), which allows me to defy those expectations and take the piece in a new direction. I don’t do it just to troll the listener, but instead to try and make a unique sound. I love Beethoven’s harmony and form, and I want to play in that space, but without just impersonating Beethoven. I tried here to make those forms and harmonies new, but without completely obliterating them. Was it successful? Yes and no. I allowed too many ideas to come at the listener too quickly, hence the piece starts off bananas. But I’d like to try this exercise again in the next sonata and see if I can tighten it. My tendency (in music and in this paragraph) is to try and say too much. Thank you again for your kind words, and for your time! The adjectives you use to describe the music are spot on, and really make me feel like something worthwhile was accomplished here. I appreciate you!

How did I miss this piece? A lovely, rhythmic, and cute piece! I think it's well-composed—it features great development and a charming melody within just 1 minute and 14 seconds. And the piano playing is great! It would be fun to skip around while humming this melody in the morning! Well done! Best, Lithl.

We need justice lol

That badge was created by me as a joke for Christmas of 2023 so that @Thatguy v2.0 could bestow the badge to me for winning our "Christmas Duel" LoL. That's a good idea too! The only comparable existing award is the "Musical Explorer" badge, but a "Creative Composer" badge would also be good! Thanks.

It’s been forever since I done this sort of method of judging with sort of a transcript of a judge tape, but I’m going to try it for this piece or what basically happens is that I listen and I speak my notes in here. This allows me to pull things up immediately that I have noticed rather than using my memory. I appreciate the little dissonances and passing tones in the first Movement and the model interchange as well (2nd movement) This sounds very medieval like a quartet of crumhornes I kinda like the stylistic blending of the baroque, and also the medieval sound and sort of that renaissance, sort of idea in good attention to dynamics the trio given in the middle of the second movement does a good job to give the listener sort of a pallet cleanser and to redirect the energy and attention I appreciate how you use the full instrument of the Sopranos saxophone although that there it would be much nicer for a full sax Quartet (satb) I still give major respect to the versatility you present with only one instrument that is held by four different players The third movement has a good range of dynamics, and I love the low end of the dynamic spectrum given in the opening statement. I also like the harmony being used as well giving a Coventry Carol feel This also should represent the sunset as well in the idea of a sunset. Lovely ending with a pickerdty third. i’ll now give my scoring and explain any faults that may have happened MelodiesThemes Motives Harmony Chords Textures Form Development Structure Time Originality Creativity Score Presentation Instrumentation Orchestration Playability Execution of Given Challenge Taste 8.5 9.15 9.7 8.4 9.6 7.88 9.5 8.56 your average is 8.91. excellent quality on your composition. Also, did you perform the whole entire thing if this was a live recording then kudos to you anyways, I had explained your orchestration score. If only you used more members of the sax family you may be able to get a much more wider sound however though your purpose kinda does justify though if you want to keep it just to one instrument. just like I had said to other entries, I had tanked the creativity score however, though I kind of brought a little bit up to you due to the creative melody and the creative harmony, and feel that your piece gives off it kinda does fit that cookie cutter idea of that aesthetic that everybody else is convergently going for so there’s not really much uniqueness in that purpose purpose there. other than that excellent job

Straight away you get to the point with the very nice intro. It has a distinct theme and haunting harmony. The fugues are very beautiful, and the transitions are quite smooth. But I especially love the intro. The intro has a Tchaikovsky feel to it, very dark, emotional with lots of soul. The fugues are fun and I can tell you paid close attention to orchestration. It seems that your key changing is pretty tame in this movement, at least within sections. Your transition from the 8 minute mark to the 9:20 mark is particularly well done and I like how you split this movement into 2...where the first section is the darker side, and the second section is the happier side. It gives the piece a nice balance. The second section reminds me a little of Bach's inventions, before you remind us of the darkness of the entire piece by shifting focus back to the intro!

Hello, This is the 2nd and 3rd installment of my Kids Songs series, which follow "Kids Perfect". These songs were written with more conventional harmonic ideas, though I tried to add some variation and spice here and there to make things interesting. Once again, these are recorded on a nice grand piano at home. Feel free to crank the volume and enjoy :) Kids Born (Arthur) was written prior to the birth of my first born child. I had no idea what he was going to be like. I wrote the piece in anticipation while my wife was still pregnant. I am particularly satisfied with that chord transition at 1:16 to Bb major. If someone knows more about music theory, perhaps they can show me why it works? Or perhaps other pieces of music that might have a similar idea? In all honestly, I probably might have made a mistake while playing/composing and it just sounded good, there was not necessarily much conscious thought that went into that particular chord. Maybe it's not even that special! Kids Born Encore (Marlon) was written some 3 years after my youngest was born...at this point I had a sense of my second child's personality. So the writing process was very different. Anyone who has ever raised 2 young kids will tell you that the kids want to have the same of everything - same toys, same food, same everything. So, naturally it was important to me to try to keep some sense of sameness but also retaining some individuality. So I chose F major, a key that feels same enough to G major and with a goal of overall similar compositional style to the first one. But alas, I was not the same person. 5 years have passed in between writing Kids Born and Kids Born Encore. One cool fact about this song is the irregular key signature, which I had no idea even existed until I transcribed it onto sheet music! Anyways, here it is. Hope you all enjoy it and let me know any feedback/critiques/suggestions.

Hi @Grant Weep—a bit late to comment on these works. My impression is that these are wonderful, lovely, and truly nice pieces. The backstory behind the works is just fantastic. When it comes to a piece that holds such significance, there’s really nothing for me to add. I'm a total stranger to your kids, but tell them to enjoy childhood, and good luck! ☺️ I said so before, but again, I truly hope you have an amazing family life! Best, Lithl.

The only exception is, you know, "that guy." 😏 By the way, what about the "Creative Composer" badge? This badge is awarded to composers whose work feels creative or who demonstrate uniqueness—such as through the fusion of different genres. Best, Lithl.

I won't want to have that lololol

Hello, If this is something you wrote a year ago, I'd be interested in hearing how your more recent compositions! The intro was pretty cool, the use of effects there was great. I tried to follow on my keyboard, since there was no sheet music. I think I got the main musical ideas. The cool thing about using the D major and occasional D minor chords is that it gives a bit of an epic feel to the piece. As you mentioned, not using the tonic always makes me feel like the music gets this short of push to it. Like, on the move. To me, it gives this sort of subjective quality like a journey. So that's pretty cool! From a structural point of view, I am hearing A/B/A/B/A. Kinda like verse/chorus/verse/chorus/verse. I mean your piece is pretty nice already. The type of structure that you have is great. Sometimes, experimenting with the structure can really make a piece of music sound special. Like any pop song, you could try adding an intro (which you kind of have, but you used effects so I have mentioned it). You could try adding a bridge. You could try adding an outro. Once again, these are all matters of subjective taste. Many great pieces written A/B/A/B/A structure, the length of your piece is also not too long, so it works. But yeah, I like how you are doing this little variations to make things interesting...alternating between the A - E - A -E, and then going E-A-E-A. I think while the overall musicality is fairly simple, you are doing some nice things with it. I find that music can be very dialectical, depending on how you look at it. Like, truly good music is slightly surprising and also comforting. You want to try to be innovative and find your own sound, but also not write something so innovative that nobody can understand. You'll want to take risk and be safe, but perhaps sometimes taking a risk is the safe thing to do, and perhaps keeping it safe is taking a risk? Anyways, just some ramblings from an old guy, welcome and hope to see you around more often.

on pastel skies was “commissioned” (more in this case called for) by the young composers 2026 summer competition fit this team after a poem about the serene atmosphere of the Midsummer afternoon So, on a bright summer day it shall be: The great sun, my partner in joy, Shall make, amid the satin and the silk, Your dear beauty lovelier still; The sky, all blue, like a tall canopy, Shall quiver sumptuously in the long folds Above our two happy brows, grown pale With pleasure and expectancy; And when evening comes, the breeze shall be soft And play caressingly about your veils, And the peaceful stars looking down Shall smile benevolently on man and wife. The gestation of this piece (initial thought, even before the entry of the first note) was an image of a dreamy Florida sunset over the Gulf of Mexico with this image the piece will transport you to another dimension of into the pastel pink, orange, and red opalescent skies instrumentation xylophone (doubling on glockenspiel and crotales, /w large zill bell attachment vibraphone I /w sus and Z.bell and dull metallic object (something like a Burma bell) vibraphone II /w sus and Z.bell and dull metallic object (something like a Burma bell) Marimba I /w sus and temple blocks Marimba II /w Chimes, sus and temple blocks and large, vibrating drum ( tom or surdo ect.) Very important note ^please use the official scoring system if you feel like it and if you’re able to with this piece, it helps a lot with my learning and also feedback and scoring of the music also is very important for my statistical research^ On Pastel Skies.mp3 On Pastel Skies.pdf

@PeterthePapercomPoser I am sorry about that. 😕 I will reverse what I said. And rescore it.

Evening, I've decided to come out of my comfort zone and, today, compose for my primary instrument, which is the classical guitar. I have played since 9 but in recent years have lost touch with it; but I have recently picked it up again and it has been giving me a new lease for life. Of course, it will be great to play my own music and this is my intention. Composing for the guitar has added difficulties owing to the layout of the fretboard. In addition, one must work out at which position of the fretboard certain passages should be played. If, for example, I tried to play this music up to fret 7 only, there would be a lot of awkward jumping around that isn't practical. On the score, I have added numbers beside certain notes which fingers should play them. The circular numbers above the stave denote the position I have determined. The next task will be to learn to play it at a reasonable standard. Once I have done, I will endeavor to upload my performance to this thread. This piece is largely baroque in style with some hints of classical, too. I have written it mostly in two parts, due to the speed and my intention to play it (I am not virtuosic!). In terms of my influences, I have been listening a lot to Bach's Keyboard Suites lately. I love his 3/8 movements (for example, the prelude for BWV 808. Soundtrack.mp3 Score.pdf

A delightful work with rich harmonies and lush strings. The vocals are sometimes a little buried in the mix, and hard to make out. It sounds like you're using quite a strong reverb: so it might be an idea to reduce the wetness level. Good work though. I am interested to know what the graphic means? Looks like a rabbit being consumed by a plastic apple.

Hello @Fruit hunter ! I wish, I could press both buttons, „Thank you“ and „Ha, ha“, but since that is not possible, I did a simple „Like“. And even though the “fruit hunter award of excellence” will not really appear in my collection of badges, I’ll collect it in my mind! Thank you, very much. It’s nice to hear, that you don’t find the use of the muted trumpet as „too annoying“. And yes, this time, I tried to blend the instruments together (as it is done in a full orchestra) as far as possible and not only to simple distribute the four-part voice leading of the original piano work to the instruments. Unfortunately, I have no practical experience how fast a cellist can change from bowing to pizzicato. I hope that it is possible in the relatively slow tempo. I remember discussions on that topic on even faster tempo, where finally came around that nowadays string players would be able to do so, even in relative fast tempo. And, by the way – ha, ha – I remember that you’ve earned similar concerns with your mallet changes in your „On Pastel Skies“ submission ... Yes, always after finishing one of my piano pieces, I try out the fingering (and test the playability). Perhaps my fingering instructions are somewhat exaggerated, but it is not as easy even in passages one might find simple at the first glance, so that I often struggle which fingering marks are redundant and obvious. Another fun was for me to learn about the notation for the Accordion, applying registration hints and the notation for the bass.

@Luis Hernández I think this is lovely! Though it’s modern, it still sounds tonal and classical-influenced to my ear. That’s my favorite kind of sound, something that feels new and classic all at once. I like that the music has a distinct shape and direction, despite the modern sound. The orchestration is lush and beautiful. It feels like you’re having fun, which makes it fun for the listener. My only suggestion would be this: if you use the entire color palette on the front end, you don’t save very many arrows in your quiver for later. You might try limiting the number of colors used at the start, so that later on you can introduce more in order to keep it fresh and exciting. Sometimes many colors used one after another can start out interesting, but quickly becomes a bit flat since they lose their uniqueness, and the thrill of introducing a new color wears off too quickly when it’s surrounded by other interesting colors. In a way, it’s about restraint in how you deploy your instruments, so that each important color change has a chance to stand out and shine. I’m excited to hear more of your orchestral work!

Hi Markus! It’s a really nice quartet, definitely in the spirit of Mozart and Haydn. The portamento in the sound samples of the strings can be mildly distracting. Also for some reason, I was slightly unsettled by bar 17 for some reason, though maybe the effect was intentional, or maybe it was partly because of the portamento. Great piece though, and I’m excited to hear the final version!

Hi @Fruit hunter First off, I think this belongs in the List of Manually-Awardable Badges thread as that is where new kinds of awards would get proposed. But I don't think you should bother about requesting it because creating such an award is: Lacking in meaning. Can easily be replaced by a simple "Like" reaction from you showing your approval. Would be too overwhelming - what if every member of the forum requested their own unique award to be able to give out to members? In any case - only staff are able to give out awards so you wouldn't be able to award the badge at your leisure but would have to continually request the staff to award each individual badge which would be logistically challenging. But of course - feel free to suggest other kinds of awards about specific characteristics of submitted pieces or their composers! Thanks for your interest.

guys hear me out. “ the fruit hunter award of excellence.” when I review a piece of music for a competition and it demonstrates it’s excellence then it gets the special honor of my award of excellence. This always has been something that has been in my head after listening to a really good composition so it may be a gimmick that i may picked up. in order for a piece of music to qualify there are two gates The total average of the score is 9.5 or greater If a piece of music, is that a threshold of 9.45-9.49 but the taste score is 9.75 or higher then it will also receive the score but this is just my little stupid idea that I have it kind of just rolls off the tongue and I thought it would be fun to present it to y’all

this production receives the “ fruit hunter award of excellence” !!!

awesome. I’ll do this in two parts my initial thoughts and then I’ll revisit the score and I’ll try to find things to pick out and to justify some rankings which could be positive as well so don’t get scared. Anyways, I kinda like the idea of this kind of acting like a sandwich with the bread, acting like this nocturne sort of like hymn sort of statement. and then a more wild, more tonically free section. I definitely appreciate the dissonance news here and the initial thought that I couldn’t even swap away was the frustration that you may have gone through, which may have caused this intentional dissonant harmony as a composer myself I also have gone through this sort of phenomenon so treated kind of as “key smashing”. I also appreciate the orchestration as well with the blending within the trumpet with its muted parts with the accordion, and also the blending within the guitar and cello making the sound simultaneously the same instrument. The one lick pic about the orchestration though is that I could barely really hear the cello on its own and pick it apart however, though this should be treated as a good thing, so you have your own justification for that. I also liked how you did some of the program notes and your ideas with putting “lyrics” to the trumpet part and also achieving that singing voice quality with the instrument that’s not the voice the accordion was especially a nice touch as it’s going to buff your originality score in your orchestration score by tons anyways the only concern is the bow changes which should be achievable due to the low tempo, but just making sure that people will most likely start to miss notes and parts getting cut out around pages 6 to 10 in the cello part. The supplemental techniques and fingerings provided are appreciated. I always enjoy that pedagogical style that you provide. score - MelodiesThemes Motives Harmony Chords Textures Form Development Structure Time Originality Creativity Score Presentation Instrumentation Orchestration Playability Execution of Given Challenge Taste 9.6 10 9.1 9 10 8.675 9.8 9.75 average: 9.49 magnificent job here definitely going to be a memorable piece of this competition the only thing I would say though about why your orchestration score got a little bit off was just because of the bow changes, however, though they could possibly be possible. anyways, amazing job.

Hello @Markus Boyd, thanks for sharing this beautiful baroque inspired prelude for acoustic guitar! Congratulations for the good scoring. Unfortunately, I had needed this a few weeks earlier, since I also featured an acoustic guitar in my last composition (for the ongoing 2026 Summer Competition). I hope that I did not cause many playability issues there, since the part is mostly single-voiced. That would be great, already excited. Yes, pieces in 3/8 are wonderful for their beautiful and thriving character, but that meter has – in my opinion - always the inherent danger from constantly listening as „hum-ta-taa, hum-ta-taa, hum-ta-taa“. There are a number of recordings of, for example, the opening choir and the choir „Herrscher des Himmels“ from Bach’s Christmas Oratorio, which suffer from that problem to be as rhythmically monotonous, regardless of the tempo. However, in your prelude this is not the case, perhaps since the repeated staccato eights are (wisely) used sparsely.

Dear Acerylio, Thank you so much for such a thoughtful, detailed, and appreciative review! I was genuinely delighted to receive it and have read it several times. I was actually aware that I had not made enough use of the English horn and its particular qualities in this piece. To be honest, I originally intended to write the piece for two oboes. It was mainly because of the final section, where the very last note falls just below the oboe’s range, that I eventually decided on this instrumentation. Perhaps I was also a little too hesitant to create a greater contrast between the registers of the two voices, as I did not want to disturb the feeling and character of the piece. I actually tried several times to move the second voice into a lower register in other passages, but somehow it just did not sound right to my ear. So in the end, I decided to leave it as it is. This is my very first piece for oboe and English horn, and I am only a beginner hobby composer, so your feedback is all the more valuable to me. If I decide to revise the piece at some point, or to write something new for these instruments—or for strings, for that matter—I will definitely keep your advice in mind. Once again, thank you very much for your time, your knowledge, and your thoughtful and helpful feedback! Warm regards, Yevgeniy

Hello @Seni-G! I apologize for straying from the music itself, but I wanted to start by mentioning your profile picture. It is absolutely lovely! How are your children and family doing? I imagine the kids have grown quite a bit by now. It captures musical elements and family life beautifully—and the fact that you’re smiling at your child rather than looking at the keyboard is wonderful. That photo truly embodies the feeling that "Everything In Its Right Place," haha! As for the piece itself, the two people above have already left such excellent comments that there isn't much left for me to add in depth. Regarding the Allegro, I got a vibe reminiscent of Kapustin—especially around the 0:04 mark. I'm not sure which piece sounds similar, but I'll share one of Kapustin's works: : Kapustin Op. 59 III. Allegro moderato Of course, the note density and tempo are different. It’s packed with ideas—including the development around 6:49—but I did feel it was a bit long for a casual listen. It might be good to try condensing it—prioritizing the elements you most want to express, trimming the rest, and ensuring a smooth flow. Of the three movements, the Largo was my favorite. I imagine that if performed on an actual piano, the nuances of the timing and pauses would come through beautifully! Best, Lithl.

Hi! I enjoyed listening to this work! I like the second movement, which is a bit reminiscent of Mozart's Violin Sonata, but don't take my ears too seriously, haha. The second movement has a nice tempo, and although the style is different, it somehow evokes the atmosphere of a village from Lord of the Rings; it's bright and lovely. I'll listen to your other works when they're uploaded! Best, Lithl.

My post was not to disparage synthesizers as instruments. They are actually very useful with an orchestra. They actually tend to blend very well and they can do things that the orchestra either outright can't, or is not very good at. For example, there are certain rhythmic pulses, infinite pads, and ambiences that would be impossible to create with acoustic instruments alone. The issue I speak of is the style of music that has given way to is...wanting. But as with anything, in the right hands, synths have been incredible: Look at Alan Silvestri or Jerry Goldsmith's work.