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You must have orchestral pieces that you really like? Maybe even, like, film scores or musical theater scores? When I first got started soooooo long ago, I would spend hours listening, replaying, transcribing, and writing everything that I heard. And holy hell, I definitely got better because I was engaging my brain in piecing everything together. Copying note-for-note is alright (as long as you're listening alongside it), but transcribing it arguably even better. And, bonus, you get to practice transcription too! But yeah, basically, don't be so beholden to the original work, is my biggest advice. There's a reason that every collegiate composition course in the world has you take a very, very short piano miniature and orchestrate it. I remember my class took Ligeti's Musica ricercata, II., and orchestrated it. Super short, and literally only three notes. It was hard. But with practice—and creativity—it all comes together.

So, you should take a look at probably the most famous orchestration of this piece by Caplet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DB8rBvyPoE And I'm gonna suggest something really boring, but if you have an extra few hours, I'd go and like copy all of this—like, note for note. By hand, if you can, just to get it in your hands and brain what instruments go where and what they're best at doing (possibly even better if you try to transcribe it, then check your work). You've got some pretty good foundations for what makes an orchestral work tick, which is a great start (e.g., you mention adding more instruments to make the piece feel fuller), but you'll notice that there are so many times where what's written deviates from the piano score. Like at 3:05, when the main theme comes back in, Caplet adds these gorgeous violin solo notes to add chord pitches (that aren't even in the original!), a sustained note in a sing-song register, and serve as counterpoint. Also, going into 3/4 in half the orchestra at 1:00, while everyone else stays in 9/8? What a cool effect! And the best part is, you'll get to see where you and he align on your choices! For example, at 3:08, you actually agreed that double flutes would work, but I believe you changed it to flute and clarinet in the final version of yours. It's worth taking the opportunity here to also improve standard notation practices. Like in the first measure, in 9/8 you can't actually have any half notes because 9/8 is representing triplet compound meter, so three dotted half notes need to be visually represented. Little things like that go a long way. You have a good budding ear for what makes orchestral works sound so pretty and grand, but you can take this opportunity to really reinforce that knowledge with score study and practice. The theory of it doesn't really matter (lessons on acoustics and stuff have always been super boring to me); what matters is knowing what things pair well and knowing when to use those tools. Best of luck and keep at it.

I'm glad you did! For me, I was going to have those reactions anyway, but obviously I'll have a different perspective. It's great we get to share potential reasons for feeling differently. Don't get me wrong; it's an incredibly smooth little sequence! It's actually possible that I thought it almost needed to stand out more, in a way, you know? Like the character is so different I might have wanted to hear it be a little wilder to reinforce that in my brain, you know? Not entirely sure. Kudos, again. Lovely stuff.

Wow, this is so pretty! I think my favorite thing about this are all these little moments that play with different dissonances: a. 0:21 holding onto the 7th into the EEC, b. 0:49 on the French 6th, technically resolving to V, bit leaving immediately after the silence. c. 3:32 holding onto fi. Maybe not unique per se, but treated with such a light touch that they really pop here! Good job! Only a couple sections I felt were a bit of a bigger change: 1. 2:40's sequence felt a little odd to me for some reason. It's a big moment, for sure, but maybe the sequence was just so rhythmically formulaic that it contrasted the unpredictable pleasantness of the rest of the piece enough to be marked for me. 2. 2:49's repeat of the low octave feels a little heavy-handed as well, but I get that you want to make the home key a little stronger after all the work you put into modulating. 3. Right at the very end, just a personal taste kinda gripe: going from 8 to 3 to 1 (scale degrees) in your highest voice feels like it's missing the 5, even though this is not an uncommon gambit. I actually quite liked the i chord with the third in the top voice because it balanced out the high SD 8. Obviously, all of the above are just personal taste things. This is a really excellently crafted work!

Because it's not a passing chord. The type of 6/4 record refers to what the bass is doing. In this case, the E in the bass isn't a "passing" tone (i.e., it's not approached by step and left by step in the same direction), so it isn't a passing 6/4 chord. Now, the third chord in m. 3 is technically a correct passing chord, but odd because it's minor (although minor v's aren't uncommon passing chords) and the aforementioned poor voice spacing. Minor v chords definitely exist, but—in America, at least—you're just taught to always raise the leading tone in minor unless otherwise marked through figured bass. V would indeed have a B-natural, but your use of the minor v, at least where I teach, in and of itself would be suspect. Any diminished or augmented interval in the upper voices is forbidden (unless extremely niche circumstances I won't cover here). If you did make the alto a B-natural in m. 3, it would become an augmented fifth, which is augmented, so it's not permitted. I mean, I'm sure there's music that ends in IV like some sort of plagal half cadence, but for harmony exercises, we really only deal with Half Cadences, Perfect Authentic Cadences, and Imperfect Authentic Cadences, with plagal extensions and deceptive cadences as ways to lengthen a progression, not end one. Ending a phrase in IV is really odd because it's functioning as predominant, which implies there should be a dominant somewhere in there. Note your wording. Authentic cadences resolve to tonic. Half cadences merely end on the dominant. Most phrases and pieces end on tonic because they "feel" resolved. I'm not explaining it in detail here, but 6/4 chords were considered the most unstable because of a remnant from Renaissance-style practice where creating a fourth between the lowest sounding note and any upper voice was a huge problem. So we only use passing, neighbor, pedal, and cadential 6/4s because 6/4 chords are dissonances and need to be treated as such. The fact that you have two 6/4 chords in a row in m. 3 is wrong because you have two dissonant chords in a row, prevents proper resolution. To be clear, all of this is only true in terms of doing exercises. Exceptions in the repertoire exist all the time.

I'm a little confused. If everything's decided via popular poll, what exactly are the criteria for "judging"? For instance, do I need to spend a lot of time on a score? Will I be be viewed less favorably if my audio recording is just standard MIDI? The competition idea is exciting, but don't know where I need to focus my time if I were to join.

Is this homework? Or just self-study? Hopefully not the former lol Assuming you're studying both voice-leading and harmony, there are a lot of problems, but the foundations are there! All of your chords have all the chord tones present, which is a great start and, for the most part, you correctly identified your non-chord tones. Measure 1: a. Get in the habit of putting serif lines on all of your major Roman numerals. Most teachers will mark you down if they just see a v because they can't tell if it's major or minor. b. No retrogressions: in the first measure, your V (dominant) chord goes to ii˚6 (predominant), which isn't allowed. I've attached a chord chart for you. c. @Henry Ng Tsz Kiu is right. Leading tones in the outer voices must resolve up to the tonic in the next chord. d. This bar has five beats in it, despite the 4/4 meter. e. And, yes, Henry's also right that your neighbor tone creates a parallel fifth against the alto. Measure 2: a. Your first V6 chord's tenor moves down to the seventh (F) as a passing tone, and sevenths must ALWAYS resolve down, so it should go to E-flat in the next chord, which it doesn't. b. Same issue with leading tones in the outer voices, but this time in the bass. The B-natural should move up to C, which fixes the issue @Henry Ng Tsz Kiu mentioned about avoiding 6/4 chords unless they're serving one of the four functions he mentioned. c. The tenor is only three beats long. Measure 3: a. Bit of a large leap from G to C in the soprano, but this isn't a huge deal. Technically doesn't break any rules, except we want to see it resolve in the opposite direction of the leap. b. The first 6/4 chord here isn't passing, neighboring, pedal, or cadential. If your 6/4 chord requires a leap either in or out, chances are it's not correct, unless it's cadential. c. The second 6/4 chord here is technically passing, but wrong to be coming out of another 6/4 chord. d. No minor v's (yes, minor v's exist, but students are taught to avoid them). If you did make the B-flat a B-natural, you still have a problem because the alto has to leap by an augmented or diminished interval, which is not allowed. Measure 4: a. I think you're misunderstanding what a plagal cadence is: the piece should still end on i, but approached by iv, not ending on iv. Plagal cadences aren't really a thing anyways... long story, but they're more often extensions to previous cadences. I would stick to HCs, PACs, and IACs, unless you're explicitly trying to work with plagal motion. b. End on a root-position chord, not a 6/4. c. The last two beats of this bar have too big of a space between the tenor and alto. Voices should be no more than an octave apart from each other, except for the bass relative to the tenor. There's a reason why students HATE learning this stuff, because it feels arbitrary, and it is. Useful in some cases, for sure, but very arbitrary. You should be proud that you're trying to learn a very niche and difficult thing. Keep at it!

That totally makes sense. Like I said, abruptness isn't a bad thing, but aurally justified abruptness often feels more satisfying, and I think that's more the vibe you're going for with this; that is to say, I don't think you're going for something intentionally incoherent. As another example (also about birds lol) here's the first movement of Cantus Arcticus: listen as more and more weird little figures gets added to this texture, some of them very out of character, but then you sort of... get used to it. Rautavaara takes the time to make you feel like those additions are worth it, you know? (Timestamped): https://youtu.be/TO3YRZWLvQo?t=60

Interesting work! It definitely borders on atonal, with some definite centricity on A that keeps it from going too far out of bounds. In fact, you've got an interesting arc here, with two (014) trichords at the beginning and end being sort of "built" off the tonic and dominant of A, even cooler because the "0" in both cases isn't the same note. It's a cool idea, something that George Walker probably would have been fond of. If there's one thing I'd point out is that a lot of the register and dynamic jumps feel a little abrupt. Now, don't get me wrong, I know that happens all the time in more avant-garde music (e.g., Crumb), but—I don't know—it feels like those have a little more pomp and circumstance to them because of the way they grow and decay. For that reason, I'd suggest playing with rhythm a lot more; giving yourself the space to do some really interesting rhythmic interplay will immerse your listener in the intervallic web you want to make instead of necessarily always having to be explicit about it with discrete musical cells of vertical harmonies and lines. The last of Saariaho's Papillons is a good example. Lots of semitones in there but it oscillates so much you just sort of recognize it implicitly and it flows between different playing styles (timestamped): Nitpicks: 1. You have it listed as Horn in F; make sure your score actually is in F (it's concert right now). 2. The fun thing about truly atonal music is that the spelling doesn't matter a ton; it's different here because you've got a pseudo-tonal thing going on, but even still, I don't think there's a need to have unnecessarily uncommon spellings like the E# in the last three measures. 3. Keep clef changes where the notes are played, not the beginning of the bar, e.g., mm. 13, 15. 4. The semitone addition in mm. 13–14 is a cool muddy echo, but I kind of want more out of it; maybe go even further into the depths?

Simple motives are the best, and you've got a good one going. If you're able and not sick of it, I'd really try to take this piece and develop it (not necessarily expand it), because there's a lot that could be done here, especially since you're so early in the learning process. 1. It's good that your main motive has rhythmic variation, but I'm not always so certain that it's intentional. For instance, the version we hear at the beginning sounds cleaner to me as the kind you have in mm. 35 and 39. The variation you have in the F minor section between straight eighths and the dotted figures is nice, though. 2. A couple jumps in technique that sound a little abrupt, talking about mm. 21 and 44. It's a pretty substantial change and it doesn't feel like it's supported well enough to me. A bigger lead in/out or a pattern change in the left hand could help with that. 3. The resolution at m. 56 jumps out to me as a little odd; it's plagal in A-flat major, but coming off of VI in the original key makes it feel a little sudden because you have two tonic-functioning chords in a row. Your bass counterpoint in that phrase is very smooth, so use that to your advantage and really sell that modulation melodically; I don't think you have to be so harmonic about it. 4. I'm not entirely sure what you want to do with the end section. The chromatic lines against the new tonic are pretty cool (I think some people call them line clichés, but I don't remember), but it's an entirely new key, so I'd take the extra time to really justify that big change. You've got a decent start to an idea, but it's not just repetition that makes things sound proper, but the time and space to make those things feel worth it. 5. In that vein, I'd also let yourself develop the melody more. You have two distinct sections in two different keys (the waltz part at least) with a decently strong melodic idea; I can tell you know that it needs more variation because of the flourishes and stuff I mentioned in Point 2, but what if you made those variations two or four or eight or sixteen bars or a whole new section... you see where I'm going with this? There's a fine line between developing an idea and wasting the audience's time and I'd encourage you to try to explore what that line is. Like I said, great ideas; I'm excited for this and you!

It is a pretty nice soundfont, eh? Well done, with some nice dynamics peaks and valleys that sound very justified. I think I'm with @PeterthePapercomPoser on a lot of my feelings; it sounds like there's a little bit of inconsistent energy throughout the work. You set up, for instance, a really compelling idea starting at m. 12, and it grows from there, but over time it feels like the energy dissipates even though my brain wants it to go further. I remember feeling like the slow stuff after the faster notes was in some sort of alla breve and it was really cool, but it stayed there, and it felt like it died out a bit. I think letting one or two of your instruments have some contrapuntal rhythmic drive would go a long way, even if it's just some generic "have more notes here" kinda writing. m. 32–33 is a prime example of this for me; what a cool little entrance figure—it'd be awesome if that rhythmic profile continued! But it just kind of stops, in my opinion. Like this passage from Mendelssohn's A Midsummer Night's Dream "Overture" is just a bunch of half notes with one note being repeated a bunch under it and it does the job (timestamped) : https://youtu.be/qU0d0zuNn7k?t=92 Basically, give yourself the time to build! It ain't an ice sculpture 🙂 Nitpicks: 1. m. 17, better to have the dotted quarter as a quarter tied to an eighth. 2. m. 14 and all bars like it in T2, you might consider having things beamed by the beat for easier reading. 3. The triplet figure in mm. 3 and 7 feel a little inconclusive ending on different notes for some reason. Not sure why, that's pretty common. Maybe something to do with the support in the rest of the ensemble. Nice little work!

Hi, there. Most of this looks pretty good. I echo a lot of @JorgeDavid's notes, particularly: I also noticed that m. 23 has both voices move above the highest note of m. 22 (voice overlap). m. 32 also has a repeated note going into m. 33. One of these things that is, like, not really wrong, but feels like an augmentated second-species counterpoint, so we try to avoid them. There's a 3-6 linear intervallic pattern (sequence) in the first exercise, which is one of those things that feels like it should be fine because it's not parallel imperfect consonances, but falls short in feeling like the voices are moving independently (the historical point of these exercises, arguably). Keep it up!

Wonderful little work. The <sol, fa, me> imitation at the end is one of those little things that make me smile when I hear them. Not sure if you're a stickler for conventions. It's entirely possible you know better than me; I'm sure they're likely one of those things that you see in the repertoire and you teach students not to do it anyway (happens a lot), but: 1. I notice an augmented second in m. 3. Odder still is that it's followed by a leap. 2. In m. 7, the second beat has one of two potential issues: either it's a iv chord without a third (!!!) or it's a iiø6/5 without the fifth, which students are taught that when you have an inverted seventh chord, all the chord tones should be present. It sounds great so who cares—and like I said, it looks like you probably know more than I do about the actual Baroque conventions—but they're just things that popped out. I'd be interested to know if they are just stylistic norms that I don't know!

Ah, I meant the children's song, "Three Blind Mice." Surely you've heard it (attached)? Anyway, it was fun to come back and see what's up. I mean, that's totally fair; the arco would definitely give it a sharper bite. And nah, wouldn't be too quick; they player would keep the hand in the bow position while plucking it (though they may complain about it). Obviously, up to you. I realize I may have come across as too negative with all the criticism—I think this piece is super cool and I'd love to hear the version with the expanded middle section if you ever get to it.

Cool stuff. I'm gonna guess you were quoting Three Blind Mice; I haven't seen the show. If not—well, you might have reinvented the wheel. A couple things: 1. I'm not sure how I like the quiet rolls at the ends of phrases. I know they're possible, but they're gonna be a little awkward and take time, delaying the nice quiet resolution. If I were to suggest a change, I'd maybe consider doing a two note thing (like a grace note + final note kinda thing), with some rolled figure in the keyboard to supplement the effect. 2. I'm guessing you want your many grace notes to connect to the triplet figure that come after them? I'd suggest being really explicit about that if so; string players are literal (e.g., don't bother giving string players phrasing slurs). 3. mm. 23–24 and 72–73: My brain kind of wants to hear some of these plucked for some timbral variety, especially since the keyboard takes over there. Something like the first note is arco, the others are plucked, until the anacrusis to the next bar. 4. I don't think your slow section needs a key signature change, personally, especially because I don't hear your key centers as the implied I–bVI–IV of A-flat major. Think of it like musical theater: you change keys so goddamn much that sometimes it ain't worth it. (Also F-flat major is kinda obnoxious to read). Nitpicks: a. Could use some more courtesy accidentals, when used in succession. For instance, throw a courtesy in m. 41 just for funsies. b. D/C double stop is kinda annoying, and very sad that it moves to Eb/A, which can't use the open A. I see the voice leading, it could maybe be a little more practical, though. c. Make sure dynamics are on the notes played. I think we really only put dynamics if it's "n" at the end of the note's duration. Maybe it's for the playback. d. Last measure: take out the rests in the right hand, since it's written like the right hand is doing a register transfer to a lower octave. Really fun stuff. Congrats.