Thanks for the great reply. I guess whether you like it or don't, one thing about 12 tone music is that it sounds utterly unique and original, even today, 60+ years after a lot of it was written. It's interesting that innovation in art and technology moves faster and is more widely accepted than innovation in music. Or maybe as you say, we're just in a a slow/innovation period. Any recommendations for books on 12 tone or serialist music? I've seen one which is pretty dense (Post-tonal Theory by Strauss) so wonder if there are clearer texts.