John Carter

Oh Arne, we would like to listen to your OWN compositions, just to check if your work is 100 % original :mellow:

And I think you're COMPLETELY crazy , and you should listen again to Gladiator and Conquest of the paradise The first bars of Vangelis theme is : A2-F3-E3-D3-C#3-D3-E3-C#3-A2 For Gladiator : A2-D3-E3-F3-E3-D3-D3-E3-F3-E3 Except that the two themes are probably written in the same KEY (with my weak musical theory ) , and share a few chords at the beginning, it's definitely not similar . The only similarity is at the beginning of each theme : Vangelis goes from a A2 to F3 directly whereas Hans does A2--- D3-E3--- F3 That's just 2 notes in common , A2, F3 , you can't blame a composer for that ! After, the progression is completely different. Hans theme is much more dramatic and "wagnerian". Vangelis theme is more ... spanish, more "fantastic". Orchestrations are different, hans theme is performed by the horns, with male choirs in the background and big percussions . Vangelis theme is performed by "mmmmh" male choirs with a staccato rhythms played by synth strings. The feeling you get when you listen to these 2 tracks ( opening of conquest of paradise and the battle from gladiator ) is not the same... Really, I will never, never understand why we always BLAME Hans Zimmer just for "copying" ( not intentional ) 2 notes... Same thing for this whole "gustav holst" story. Planet mars is written in 5/4 , Hans transformed the theme in a 3/4 frightening waltz and it's definitely not what we call a "plagiarism" . Why nobody ever blame John Williams for copying Igor Stravinsky and his nutcracker in "Home alone" ( And in that case it's REALLY a plagiarism, or .. hommage ) ? For copying Richard Strauss in Superman ? For copying stravinsky firebird and holst symphony in star wars ???

Hey nikolas ! Great cue :D reminded me a bit of michael kamen sometimes ... It must be so good to have his music performed by an orchestra, isn't it ? Even if it's a student orchestra, it sounds so much better than the "seattle symphony" orchestra from East West Platinum orchestra, or the "vienna orchestra" from VSL... I have a question regarding this, are the musicians paid ? Or they just do that for "training" as they're student ? Because.. i'd love to have some of my pieces performed live ( and recorded for short movies ) , I know many universities here in France and musicians, but I never asked them... I didn't dare yet, because I couldn't pay them if they asked me.

Williams started as a jazz pianist ! Then he worked in the "golden age" team of arrangers/orchestrators for Korngold, Alfred Newman. Then he started working on TV for a decade. Finally Spielberg found him , and you know the rest ;) Zimmer started in punk / rock band and the famous "Buggles". He really started film composing as an assistant to stanley meyers ( british composer ) in the 80s. I think an aspiring film composer shouldn't restrain himself to "film" composing, but also to video-games / documentary, advertising and show ...

ahah yes indeed nikolas i'm the same "john" :happy: Thanks for listening everybody ! :huh: i'm making a score .. because actually I wrote this piece directly in cubase, so I have to clean it before transferring it to sibelius

Oh thanks for listening :laugh: unfortunately i'm not at home so i can't upload the score yet. But if you want some informations about the orchestrations, mine is easy. Just 2 violins section, one 18 violins section (from East West Platinum ) playing sordino, and another small violin section ( 6 players ) playing piano and without sordino. With a double basses sections in the background playing sustain and tremolos sometimes. A bansuri playing a bend note :angry: and of course the piano :angry:

Hi there :laugh: I just wanted to share with you a short and simple cue i did yesterday. Goal was to compose a nice atmosphere, almost elegiac with high piano notes , french oboe and strings in the background. Hope you'll enjoy it :angry: although it's perhaps a bit short :angry: the cue http://annecywebtv.free.fr/souffleduventdvd/la%20commemoration-test-01.mp3 John,