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Ya, all 20th century (ish) music is hard to play so I was thankful to get a skilled violinist- but about the two keys thing, I like to think of it more as one sonority with two triads emphasized. For instance sometimes, I will have c minor being played in the violin with g major in the piano, it makes for a very interesting sound and color. This is what I pretty much did through the whole piece, messing with different "sonorities" and harmonies to give it that distinct sound of sorrow. I do understand your comment about the continuous flow, but before this piece I had a problem with writing too much so my teacher suggested adding rests to give the listeners time to absorb what they were hearing and what not. Just a preference I guess, thanks for your comments though.

thanks for the comments it means a lot; here's the score- i can only get the violin score to show correctly the pdf converter messes up the piano part for some reason traurigkeit.pdf

I wrote this piece last semester and was to get it played at a concert. The recording is great in terms of quality, there are some mistakes in the playing however (like always :D) About the piece: The title is german for Sorrow, and the piece is typically the story of the emotion and all things encompassing it. It's written in a bitonal fashion, meaning two different keys/chords are being expressed at the same time in both parts (either different hands in the piano or the violin and piano together). Eitherway, I hope you guys enjoy it, I consider this to be my first major piece! Thanks for listening. 02 Traurigkeit - Live - eSnips, share anything (theres also a clip of me playing bassoon if you're interested haha!)

Just aesthetic perception really- you see, i dont like vibrato on the horn at all but i really like it in some instances on the clarinet

i usually listen to other pieces just to get some ideas flowing if im absolutely dead in the water- typically you will be able to get something going, just be sure not to rip off whatever you listened to haha!

Ticheli anyone?

i really love some of your ideas you have in here, you develop them all really well and also variate them in some subtle ways that are really easy on the ear. I must say my favorite part is the move from measure 34-35 and 51-52, beautiful. Great job I wish I had more experience to comment more but it sounds lovely, keep it up.

i'm not into film music a whole lot but i really enjoyed what you have done- i don't know it just seemed like a breath of fresh air, some sounds a lot like williams which is always pleasant. Keep up the great work!

Haha I do like John Williams a lot but for those who dont think he steals listen to Dvorak's 9th (New World Symphony) and listen to the beginning of movement 4 then listen to JAWS hahahah..but i do agree that he is great for film music, symphonic works i disagree

You have to compose a 32 bar piece for full orchestra? In highschool??? Shiza that's pretty crazy

yeah its used in a whole lot of musicals as well, its a very cool sound and i like to use it a lot

what an awesome forum haha..

I apologize for that, its fixed now traurigkeit - eSnips, share anything oh and xanic im just from the US, i speak very little german but i love the language and hope to take a class on it eventually here at FSU Also theres a lot of missed glissandos and articulations in the recording because finale and garritan are just too awesome together, just a warning

The piano part is interesting, it just gets really muddy in the left hand. Obviously if you were going for that effect that's fine, but you might want to try sticking to just perfect intervals that low in the register. Also try spicing up the horn part, lots of times it doesn't really go anywhere melodically. But good piece nonetheless, I enjoyed it.

Hey everyone, you might have seen me post this piece in the incomplete section but of course now it is finally finished. To give you some basic information about the piece, it is obviously for Violin and Piano, but more interestingly it is based around a bi-tonal system. For those who don't know, basically bi-tonal means what you would think, two tonalities, or two triads being emphasized at the same time. For the most part a certain triad will be played in the LH piano with another in the RH with the violin emphasizing one of them. As for inspiration of the piece, it basically just started out as an assignment my professor gave me just to explore different tonalities and such, eventually somewhere down the line though it evolved into this. To set the mood of the piece, I chose the title Traurigkeit which roughly translates to 'full of sorrow' in german, also I chose a poem by Sri Chinmoy on the topic of sorrow to more fully set the mood. At the rim of sorrow He found his heartless mind. On the brink of despair He found his soulless heart. In the sea of destruction He found his goalless soul. Centuries dropped dead. Now On the shore of Time He finds his searching mind He finds his crying heart He finds his illumining soul. -Sri Chinmoy Hope you guys enjoy, any comments are welcome. Obviously the recording isn't the greatest but hopefully it should get the point across. Also it is supposed to be performed in late january so I'll get the live recording of that asap. traurigkeit - eSnips, share anything Ford fwh06@fsu.edu This might even be considered "avant-garde" I guess so if any mods feel like moving it go for it