Wagner...? I think Wagner was quite a bit like Schoenberg. Both were I think very intelligent people, but were also arrogant.
Some of Wagner's music I think is very good. But they get drowned out among the mediocre stuff that he created while trying to build "monumental masterpieces" of musical history...Ah, and his repetitions, repetitions.......
I agree that Beethoven's ninth is the best of them all. In terms of its gravity, (I mean intellectual weight), apart from creativity, esthetics etc, it's unequalled in the whole of music. And I actually am not a Beethoven enthusiast.
Also I must say that I'm in principle a little opposed to such characterisations as best opera, symphony etc.Fort instance, where do you put Guillaume de Machaut among all these people? Or Scarlatti, with his works for the keyboard? There's so much tenderness and emotion in some of his works, in a very personal, characteristically Spanish way...
Can one compare Chopin's preludes with those of Bach?
There are many criteria for judging a work. Esthetics, intellectual depth, emotional intensity, technical skill, complexity (for better or worse), comes to mind at once.
But there's something else that's very badly neglected too. I personally believe that it's beyond absurd to compare, for instance, Bach, Beethoven, Debussy, and say Palestrina, or Machaut..The works of these people are so different so completely apart from each other not only in their technical aspects, but also in meaning and intent that, in my humble opinion, it's utterly frivolous to say something like, "Mozart's Requiem's better than Bach's Mass, which's better than Machaut's Mass de Notre Dame"...etc.
Can we really compare simplicity and complexity for example? Can we compare Renaissance music with Baroque?
Isn't good music ultimately tied strongly to its creators character and personality?Can one compare Beethoven's revolutionary fervour, (French revolution inspired I mean), with the religiosity of Bach?
And so I don't compare them myself. They're different. Everyone has his preference based on his taste.
I wonder what you people think on this..