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Quick word for healey.cj - not everyone has the same ability for music, as well as for anything else. I have no intention to dismiss anyone, let people choose their own way. But that doesn't change the thing at all. Work hard and you'll get many many things. But not everyone can get everything out of hard work. Quick word for SSC - great for science, to reject it would be just hypocrite. But I cannot help to laugh at the quasi-religious embracing the thing many people boast of. About the talent thing, I really think it can be helpful. Personally, I've been pointed out as talented on some things, and mediocre on others - I've truly thanked both kinds of judgement. End of the thread for my part.

Quite ok, but a word can be perfectly used to refer to a hole in our knowledge, cos, even if I'm an ignorant, I perceive there's something and I have to name it. You'd rather research on the matter, ok, but I'm happy with my non-explanation. I accept the good will of science in bringing light to the hole, but don't despise as hilarious the non-need of science-verifying every damn thing. As simple as that. Things DO TRASCEND logic.

Just a couple of quotes: Great standpoint! But then... you're taking talent, ability, into consideration, I asume? Well, frankly, that's YOUR belief, as -Gardener already pointed out- it's not something you can prove. Feel free to dismiss the concept of talent, for whatever reasons (and you really may have them), but don't try to demonstrate there's nothing of the sort.

EC, thanks for your comments, nice you liked it. About the piano volume, I'm just now beginning to deal with Sonar, so I may have these sort of problems till I get used to it.:(

I was first strucked by minimalism not long ago. Many things by Glass and Reich, and specially Adams, of course. It's like, oh, there's still hope!! Anyways, the most interesting post-minimalist things I've come across are the so called sacred: Gorecki, and specially Arvo P

May I ask why you find it SO annoying? I always thought it pretty logical... Anyways, no, I don't think there's a way to avoid this behavior, although you can hide them afterwards.

A couple of songs on poems by Blake (I just finished the Sick Rose some days ago) and Wordsworth. It's being fun, I'll post them when I get tired of the thing.

I like your style, your mood, your phrygian... I promise more a deep comment with the score. Thanks for the music.

Extra piece uploaded, same intentions. Thanks for any comments.

Bravo... Wonderfully powerful, "barbaric" indeed. Not a note more needed, I think, but if you have more energy to take out of yourself...

Great! Don't know if original or not, but the theme on measures 15-... is really really nice. I think I would've exploited it more before the change on m. 23. Just my impression, anyway.

I REALLY thank you for listening to it at all, and for all your comments. And I'm glad to have positive rewiews (nah, maybe glad is an understatement, but you know what I mean :)). QcCowboy - special thanks for the detailed review. The measure 37 problem that you point did in fact worry me for some time when I wrote it, I don't remember if I just liked it in the end or gave up looking for a better solution. Anyways, changing details or not (it's not something I'm to do just now, but neither I discount it on some medium-term future), I take note of them and give them some thought.

I understand your point, and I agree that the fact cannot be ignored. But it cannot be overstated neither. My only concern is that it can be used -and it IS used- as a good-for-everything shield against criticism, and so the trick can be overlooked if that "logical implication" is magnified. Personally, I gladly accept the entire concept of artistic freedom, but not for it being logically obvious, but because of its wonderful consequences, both for artist and receptor. But freedom, too, has an obverse that cannot be ignored. I'm not saying the invention is better or isn't. But even if I cannot afirm it logically, nor demonstrate it, I still feel it so. I just mind logic to some extent, then the whole thing begins to mean nothing for me. But I think there's no true disagreement on the xerox thing, so I won't lead to circle-discussing on this.

Again, I cannot stand that conceptual "either everything sucks or everythings is just as valid" conclusion. Sure I can't prove Bach's invention is of more artistic value. Nor do I have any specific problem with the photocopy being a byproduct. Yet the fact that one can't prove it changes nothing, it still may be better -can I dare say so? I really think the invention IS more valuable! I'm just as openminded as any. But the mere logical possibility that a photocopy can be more valuable (let's say just not less) than its original -in other words, the lack of proof against it- cannot be used as defense. That's fooling people with false arguments. Sure I can take a photograph of some work that's as worth as the work itself, but that doesn't legitimize every knucklehead with a camera. Agree with the concert thing. Now, if I EVER express my intention of writing a fart symphony, please prevent me from doing so, laugh at me, insult me, just you guys don't let me do so. ;) I might truly regret it afterwards. ... Anyway, Maelstrom is quite right, this was once about someone whose opinion about some music collided with his friends'. The matter is all subjective, but that doesn't mean that any opinion is equally valid. Build your own judgement, really BUILD it, its not a I-like-this-I-don't-like-that thing. Listen to people views, but do not consider them all on the same level. Then if your views don't match with this one or that one, well, that's fine in itself, isn't it?

... Personally, arguing that if philosophically impeccable, then it must be true, is dishonest. Maybe it's just an opinion of mine, but be it objective or not, I feel a photocopy of a Bach's invention... just a loving photocopy of a Bach's invention! Am I being so blind or stubborn?:( Anyways, I agree that the effort put into a work of art does not matter at all. What I care is the final thing I get, be it the work of years or of ten minutes, or just the result of chance. Not that it is skillful, farting could still be artistically valid, of course. I'm not being ironic (not that much). I truly understand, 'cos I share it, the position of enjoying artistically what has not been commonly considered so -either some bird singing, or someone's fart (if I dislike the farting it's not because of its lack of merit, just a matter of personal taste). I really take pleasure, musically, in the silence home at night. Now, let' us not be hypocrite. If we're going to apreciate silence, of farting, as music, let's change our artistic standards: I'm not going to go to a concert hall to listen to someone farting. That may be art, but perfectly free art, I'll just enjoy it on daily life. Just common sense, you know.