Kefienzel
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People are generally more rude online because they can hide behind their computer and, like I said, be that "internet tough-guy" In the real world you'd look like a jackass and a tool.
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Is Formal Training In Composition Necessary ?
Kefienzel replied to luderart's topic in Advice and Techniques
Actually no, we just forget a great number of great ones that were famous in their day. -
Yeah, "the internet" Honestly, in real life, people act with a little more tact. I think being tough (still with much more tact than was shown in this thread) on an experienced composer is good, but trying to lower the ego of someone who is starting out is fairly pointless The better you think you are at something, the more likely you are to do it. And the more you do it, the more you realize you know little about it. The appropriate action of this forum would have been to briefly address the main point (why the conductor considered it unsingable) and left the thread alone. People just can't resist being the internet tough guy though and putting people in their place though. And then they think quietly in their subconscious, "man I'm cool" This happens all the time everywhere though.
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There's something called constructive criticism. Apparently you've never heard of it. There's little point to sticking your head in the door and saying "I looked at your piece, it sucks" and then running away.
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I like how most responses here are "Your piece is bad", not "Your piece needs work. this is what's wrong and this is how you make it better"
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He's trolling - he's trying to get you upset to get his jollies. Just ignore him, he's not even being serious. Don't be discouraged either. Keep listening to music.
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Don't worry, he's an idiot. But to answer your question, no. It's just with having a work actually performed, the performer has to be generally familiar with the style of composition unless they have a decent length of time to study it. If you're giving music to a group (and you aren't famous), it should generally be in a common style, or else easily graspable. The piece you showed us is not in a vocal style at all. Look at the chords you are creating and try to hold common tones whenever you can. The piece looks piano-like or perhaps even more, brass-like. I don't think Piston's book is good for a beginner. It doesn't hold your hand. Studying common practice harmony will solve a lot of your problems.
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Either You Have The Gift Of Composition Or You Don't?
Kefienzel replied to luderart's topic in Composers' Headquarters
That's not true at all. When I was younger (a kid) I thought talent was the main reason for the best composers being the best, etc. Then I realized that the majority of people's success is through plain hard work. However, talent obviously exist. By talent I mean the natural genetic inclination toward a specific thing. Some people are born with a genetic predisposition toward math or the visual arts or music. It's not a black or white thing. Talent isn't the only factor, and neither is hard work. The best composers are a marriage of both. If you meant by this statement that "passion and determination" are a result of a genetic predisposition toward music then I suppose your argument is much more sound as people naturally choose to do what they are talented at, not only because it is more gratifying for them but because they get an ego boost from those around them. -
What Is/are Your Favourite Obscure/obsolete Instrument(S)?
Kefienzel replied to TJS's topic in Composers' Headquarters
Definitely, I wish more people recorded on these. On a giant resonant steinway or something, Mozart can just sound odd at times. -
I think extended techniques are fine as long as they don't feel gimmicky, and they very often do for me.
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Tchaikovsky is godly. His orchestration is fantastic.
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I think you misunderstand...your teacher can tell you to write for orchestra, but they can't dictate your exact style. Your style is personal. If they told you "write a symphony like mozart", well, you'd learn that in a styles class. Oh, I'm also at a "decent" school, so I know from experience.
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They aren't letting you write what you want?
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Everyone bases their entire lives in some way on what everyone else thinks. Truth.
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Anything featuring a clarinet. Hmm.... 2nd viennese school with the exception of their early music. I like berg the most. This might sound peculiar but I'm also tired of Schumann's voicings. For the moment I'm tired of French music. It's never been my favorite. I'm in a Rachmaninoff mood.
