robinjessome Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 Willy, Modes and such... Will start soon. ;)
Will Kirk Posted August 29, 2007 Posted August 29, 2007 Basically I'm pretty well informed on building the standard scales and chords and such. But I know practically nothing about modes and building them,so I guess that'd be the best place to start
robinjessome Posted September 1, 2007 Author Posted September 1, 2007 Basically I'm pretty well informed on building the standard scales and chords and such. But I know practically nothing about modes and building them,so I guess that'd be the best place to start Cool, Modes: Take, for example, the C Major scale (no flats, or sharps). There's 7 notes, each of which can be a starting point for a new mode. New mode, made up of the same notes as C Major. C D E F G A B D E F G A B C E F G A B C D etc. They are named as such (using modes of F for reference), along with their jazz chord symbols: I - ionian - FMaj7 ii - dorian - Gmin7 iii - phrygian - Amin7 ...[ Amin7(b9) ] IV - lydian - BbMaj7(#11) V - mixolydian - C7 vi - aeolian - Dmin7 ...[ Dmin7(b6) ] viii - locrian - E
robinjessome Posted September 1, 2007 Author Posted September 1, 2007 Addendum: Consideration of modes can take two aproaches. 1) as above, the 'parent scale' method. I.e. You derive Eb Lydian from Bb Major. 2) by considering alterations to the scale, one can derive similar results. I.e. You may derive Eb Lydian by raising the 4th note a half-step. This shows the modes of C Major, with the relative key signatures to demonstrate the alterations. For some it's easier to remember Aeolian = 6th mode; for others, to recall that Aeolian = b3, b6, b7. To each his own. I find the first method to be more intuitive for realtime improvisation.
Will Kirk Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Alright Well what I think I see right off is that each mode starts with it's respective Scale Degree according to C major Like to make a Dorian Mode in C I simply start on the supertonic and use the notes depending on the key signature Am I on the right track?
robinjessome Posted September 1, 2007 Author Posted September 1, 2007 Well what I think I see right off is that each mode starts with it's respective Scale Degree according to C majorLike to make a Dorian Mode in C I simply start on the supertonic and use the notes depending on the key signature Am I on the right track? Exactly, we're just moving around the 'bottom'... :P
Will Kirk Posted September 1, 2007 Posted September 1, 2007 Ah I see So I had another question, if I decide to use the E Phrygian Mode in the key of Dmajor would it look like E F# G A B C# D?
robinjessome Posted September 2, 2007 Author Posted September 2, 2007 ...if I decide to use the E Phrygian Mode in the key of Dmajorwould it look like E F# G A B C# D? That's the E Dorian mode. ....E Phrygian is the 3rd mode of C Major, and thus has no sharps/flats. :D
Will Kirk Posted September 5, 2007 Posted September 5, 2007 So each Mode name changes depending on the key signature as well? I mean, if the E Dorian is in the key of Dmajor, and the E Phrygian is in the key of Cmajor then do they change for every different key sig?
robinjessome Posted September 5, 2007 Author Posted September 5, 2007 So each Mode name changes depending on the key signature as well?I mean, if the E Dorian is in the key of Dmajor, and the E Phrygian is in the key of Cmajor then do they change for every different key sig? Sort of. The key being used for that mode will dictate which mode it is...You may have E Phrygian being used in a piece in the key of D Major....the key signature has little relevance to determining the mode. Kind of a strange concept...we'll check out some tunes in a bit.
Will Kirk Posted September 13, 2007 Posted September 13, 2007 Ok, well since Modes are basically covered I had another question how does one go about writing a good lead sheet?
robinjessome Posted September 13, 2007 Author Posted September 13, 2007 Ok, well since Modes are basically covered I had another questionhow does one go about writing a good lead sheet? Okay...tune writing. It comes again to melody and flowing seamlessly through changes. Target notes are important; knowing where you're headed and how you're going to get there. See this post for a overview on guide-tones and target notes. SO...from here we can build a melody. Let me know if the guide-tone stuff makes sense, and we'll move on. ...
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