nikolas Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Okie. I'm writing a small article, for myself, my PhD, and for you, and I was wondering how I could call the following with 1 word: The works, of you, me, QCC, and everyone else. In Greece we do use, abusively, the word "classical" music, meaning all western music more or less, from Bach (or maybe even before that), to Ligetti, Bartok, Beethoven, or QCC. But lately I've started hearing the term 'concert hall' music, which seems to fit the whole description better. Not popular music (since it's made for the studio), not film music, for the same reasons, not traditional music, since it's driven by tradition. This leaves all the rest, including Stockhausen, Boulez, Brahms, Listz etc... Any ideas on that? any other term you use? Because remember, I'm 3rd year PhD, but I never got a Bachelors in music, so I'm probably missing many terms (but not knowledge! :D) So help up please :) Quote
Mark Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 Possibly Art Music? That's to my knowledge the general term for what most people call 'classical' music. Classical music - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia History of European art music Early Medieval (476 – 1400) Renaissance (1400 – 1600) Common practice Baroque (1600 – 1760) Classical (1730 – 1820) Romantic (1815 – 1910) Modern and contemporary 20th century classical (1900 – 2000) Contemporary classical (1975 – present) Concert music works for me too... Quote
nikolas Posted September 25, 2007 Author Posted September 25, 2007 Thing is that concert hall music (which is the term that I prefer) is SPECIFICALLY created for the concert hall, which means that it has to be playable, even electronic music, and has few, if no studio techniques (except electronic music here). Furthermore all concert hall music, is perceived as a social event in the end (going in the concert hall), as opposed to any other genre, where the idea is to make the record and THEN support it by concerts. Additionally, it is assumed a great scam to have any studio technique (even simple mastering) to a concert hall music recording. It is left AS IT, where in any other music, you do certain things, minimum in jazz, more in normal pop records (quite a lot, I'd say) Quote
spherenine Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 I call it music. I don't mean to come off as one of those anti-genre jerks when I say that, but you have described a wide range of music there. Quote
nikolas Posted September 25, 2007 Author Posted September 25, 2007 I don't like genres really myself, but it's for a very specific purpose of an article. That's why I'm trying to come up with a term, and I think I will use the term 'concert hall music', as it fits what I have in mind, perfectly! But, do keep in mind, that it is for a specific purpose, and that I don't fancy genre names myself really... :) Quote
WaxyD Posted September 25, 2007 Posted September 25, 2007 It's a little weird to call it this because nothing new has been created in music for many years, but I now a conductor who wrote unique music for a specific orchestra. He called it the "New Music Ensemble". So...New Music? Quote
Tumababa Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Ugh... I hate the terms "art music" and especially "serious music". I like "written-down music" or "notated music". Quote
last life Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 But alot of pop music, rock music and certainly jazz is written down? Personally I like concert hall music the best. Quote
Tumababa Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Concert hall strikes me as old fashioned. Plus, I've jammed with a lot of pop, rock, and jazz musicians. The jazz kids were the only ones who could read and use notation productively as a time saving device. I'll stick with "written-down music". Quote
kievins Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 The term 'autistic music' came to me, but I think I must have had a mad moment there... Concert music seems fine to me. Quote
Tumababa Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Yeah but you still have the problem of explaining to people what "concert music" is. I used to tell people I was into "concert music" and they inevitably arch an eyebrow and ask me what the hell I was talking about. And isn't the whole point of a having a genre name being able to avoid a 2 hour conversation about music everytime you talk to a different person about it? Quote
Mark Posted September 26, 2007 Posted September 26, 2007 Why not carry around an mp3 player, and if someone asks what type of music you write, show them :P Quote
Tumababa Posted September 30, 2007 Posted September 30, 2007 That's what I usually do. Not with an mp3 player, but I link them to my myspace page or something. Quote
nikolas Posted October 1, 2007 Author Posted October 1, 2007 Cause I'm looking to write an article of sorts, not write links to my site, which would serve fine otherwise ;) Quote
Tumababa Posted October 2, 2007 Posted October 2, 2007 Sorry. We got off topic. Maybe you could use some latin fragments to come up with a new word? Quote
kievins Posted October 3, 2007 Posted October 3, 2007 Artistic music? Although that may just be a variation on 'autistic music'... I don't know, I can't understand how my brain works. The problem with latin variations is no-one knows what it means, as it was originally in another language... Quote
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