trevuar25 Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Is techno the closest thing we have to classical influence in our day and age?? I've noticed a lot of techno sequencers/composers draw from classical forms more than rock does.and if techno isnt the closest musical genre to classical music we've got, then what is? Quote
robinjessome Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 I've noticed a lot of techno sequencers/composers draw from classical forms more than rock does.and if techno isnt the closest musical genre to classical music we've got, then what is? :huh: uhhh.... Jazz? Classical forms? Um...No. Like...seriously? What!? I don't even know where to begin... :blink: ... Quote
finrod Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Hmmmm, not sure whether I agree with you either. I think techno generally is pretty uninspiring, although there are a few decent artists. The closest genre to classical would probably be film/soundtrack music I'd say. Rock, pop, techno and jazz are all completely different IMO. Quote
Fox Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 I agree with Finrod, film music especially is alot closer to classical then something like techno. Off the top of ym head a good example would be Chevaliers de Sangreal by Hans Zimmer, check it out. I think soundtrack music has to essentially condense the classical elements and use simple themes more in order to hit the right length, but the similarities are there. I just....can't see where you're coming from with techno. Quote
robinjessome Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 ...The closest genre to classical would probably be film/soundtrack music I'd say... I agree with Finrod, film music especially is alot closer to classical... Guys, c'mon - film music is classical music. :whistling: Quote
Guest Anders Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Is techno the closest thing we have to classical influence in our day and age??I've noticed a lot of techno sequencers/composers draw from classical forms more than rock does. And if techno isn't the closest musical genre to classical music we've got, then what is? What?? *is very puzzled* People are still writing ''classical'' music, you know... Quote
Saiming Posted December 19, 2007 Posted December 19, 2007 Is techno the closest thing we have to classical influence in our day and age??I've noticed a lot of techno sequencers/composers draw from classical forms more than rock does.and if techno isnt the closest musical genre to classical music we've got, then what is? This is undoubtedly the most hilarious thing I've read today. Funny part is that you are not ironic at all. Quote
gianluca Posted December 21, 2007 Posted December 21, 2007 What do you mean by "classical influence" and "classical forms"? I hope you're aware that even today there are still composers of "classical" music (albeit contemporary or modern classical music) - people like Boulez, Carter, Kurtag, Birtwistle, P Quote
Franzman Posted December 21, 2007 Posted December 21, 2007 Is techno the closest thing we have to classical influence in our day and age??I've noticed a lot of techno sequencers/composers draw from classical forms more than rock does.and if techno isnt the closest musical genre to classical music we've got, then what is? HAh.. :w00t: heck, Metal is more classical than Techno. :whistling: Quote
James H. Posted December 26, 2007 Posted December 26, 2007 I disagree... I believe that techno is more classically influenced than metal.... metal is.... metal, it is musically dead simple, a metal song will usually have two or three chords, a TON of unmusical screaming (unmusical in MY opinion only), a few drum fills, and maybe an interesting lick or two out of the lead guitar. Not much going on. Did I mention that the few present chords are usually but only power chords? There aren't even many chords beyond that in sophistication in the average metal track. Techno, on the other hand, has a lot more to do with combining sounds and musical figures, often instrumental only, so the focus is on the musical aspect, not the meaning of the lyrics to the song. I've also seen/heard some rather complex progressions and modulations in techno as compared with metal. There are also many more techno artists that are classically trained than metal artists. Not to say there are no exceptions, but as far as I've seen, that has been the case. For instance, one artist I find rather interesting myself calls himself CoLd sToRaGe, and he is a classically trained pianist, but ended up mixing techno tracks, a few of which ended up in the soundtrack to the original hovercraft racing game for PC, "Wip3out" (which rules) Quote
nhomas Posted December 26, 2007 Posted December 26, 2007 I disagree... I believe that techno is more classically influenced than metal.... metal is.... metal, it is musically dead simple, a metal song will usually have two or three chords, a TON of unmusical screaming (unmusical in MY opinion only), a few drum fills, and maybe an interesting lick or two out of the lead guitar. Not much going on. Did I mention that the few present chords are usually but only power chords? There aren't even many chords beyond that in sophistication in the average metal track. As usual, all generalizations are false. Sophisticated metal is definitely out there, and not even that obscure. Take Dream Theater, for instance, a fairly commercially successful metal group. They're a group of classically trained musicians, and are known for their extremely virtuosic playing, large-form song structures, and elaborate, improvisatory live sets. To be sure, they also have their fair share of unusual time signatures, polyrhythms, weird harmony, and all of the other trappings of "complex" music. YouTube - Dream Theater: Learning To Live Quote
Nirvana69 Posted January 9, 2008 Posted January 9, 2008 I disagree... I believe that techno is more classically influenced than metal.... metal is.... metal, it is musically dead simple, a metal song will usually have two or three chords, a TON of unmusical screaming (unmusical in MY opinion only), a few drum fills, and maybe an interesting lick or two out of the lead guitar. Not much going on. Did I mention that the few present chords are usually but only power chords? There aren't even many chords beyond that in sophistication in the average metal track. (which rules) This doesn't really have anything to do with the original topic but I find this an unfair view of metal. What you're describing can certainly be classfied as metal but only in its lowest form. It's like me saying all pop music is bad and then providing Britney Spears' songs as examples. I recomend listening to Dream Theater. Alot of Dream Theater fans seem to enjoy classical music as well. Please don't go dismissing an entire genre based on what you hear on the radio. That's just like people dismissing classical music just because they've heard bits and pieces of music by Mozart (don't get me wrong, I enjoy Mozart but I hardly find his work the best or most enjoyable in the classical genre). Quote
ajamesu Posted January 9, 2008 Posted January 9, 2008 I disagree... I believe that techno is more classically influenced than metal.... metal is.... metal, it is musically dead simple, a metal song will usually have two or three chords, a TON of unmusical screaming (unmusical in MY opinion only), a few drum fills, and maybe an interesting lick or two out of the lead guitar. Not much going on. Did I mention that the few present chords are usually but only power chords? There aren't even many chords beyond that in sophistication in the average metal track. Don't discredit metal; what you're talking about is like really heavy metal. What about symphonic metal? I don't doubt that techno is closer to classical music than symphonic metal, but symphonic metal is kinda up there, with its... I don't know, I can't really explain the relationships. It'd be easier if you listened to some pieces yourself. A good example of an artist, and a pioneer, of symphonic metal would be Nightwish. [One of my fave bands XD] Back to the topic. I think we're talking about Classical music here, not classical music, right? Well, in terms of Classical forms, I think that a lot of mainstream pop could actually relate to Classical ideas, with the ABA forms and structures and stuff. Techno does have some Classical ideas, but if you mean instrumental techno, then I find that THAT particular type of techno is closer to jazz because of its free form. Techno with vocals could be included in mainstream pop, I guess. That's just my opinion. Quote
Yagan Kiely Posted January 9, 2008 Posted January 9, 2008 heck, Metal is more classical than Techno. What I was going to say.Techno, is just over simplified minimalism. Guys, c'mon - film music is classical music. QFT. Hell, half of SW is just rip offs of classical music.I disagree... I believe that techno is more classically influenced than metal.... metal is.... metal, it is musically dead simple, a metal song will usually have two or three chords, a TON of unmusical screaming (unmusical in MY opinion only), a few drum fills, and maybe an interesting lick or two out of the lead guitar. Not much going on. Did I mention that the few present chords are usually but only power chords? There aren't even many chords beyond that in sophistication in the average metal track.(which rules) Heavy metal subgenres - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia I know someone in a metal band, and although I can't stand it, that is false. There is more than korn in metal music. Quote
ThePianoMan121 Posted January 9, 2008 Posted January 9, 2008 Guys, c'mon - film music is classical music. :whistling: Some is, some is more rock-based. Quote
ThePianoMan121 Posted January 9, 2008 Posted January 9, 2008 I disagree... I believe that techno is more classically influenced than metal.... metal is.... metal, it is musically dead simple, a metal song will usually have two or three chords, a TON of unmusical screaming (unmusical in MY opinion only), a few drum fills, and maybe an interesting lick or two out of the lead guitar. Not much going on. Did I mention that the few present chords are usually but only power chords? There aren't even many chords beyond that in sophistication in the average metal track. Then you're not listening to the right metal. Check out Virgin Black and Aletheian, to start. Quote
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