Ratio posting

Would it be possible to set up a ratio for posting in forums. Since it seems a lot of post for certain users tend to go to off-topic, I think there should be some kind of ratio between how many post you in non-off topic areas compared to how many you have in places that are not off topic.

Just idea, so let's say 1 in every 5 post have to be in a part of the forum that is not off topic and if you do not reach that ratio then off-topic automatically closes for you.

I can see this leading to an abundance of reviews such as:

'lol dis is real gud i like it'

just so they can be allowed another few posts in the Off Topic.

I agree with Mitchell. But I think I'd rather have those kind of comments than in-depth comments from people who don't know what they're talking about.

You seem to be quite into the theme that there are a lot of people here that don't know what they are talking about. I haven't seen any of the ones you are referring to at all. :huh:

It seems to me that both these types of reviews are just as bad. I someone tells you that the piece is good without saying WHAT makes it good, it's just the same as someone giving a lot of ideas that don't make any sense. Regardless, I don't see the point in having a posting limit. Perhaps upon discretion of the mods, some people who have hardly made posts is the music sections of the forum could either lose their off-topic privilege, or even be removed from the forum for a while... but I don't think either of these would work. I don't believe that a post regulation should be issued.

I can see this leading to an abundance of reviews such as:

'lol dis is real gud i like it'

just so they can be allowed another few posts in the Off Topic.

We've dismissed the possibility of implementing such a scheme for this very reason.

Also, if someone happens to get caught up in an active thread in OT (e.g. a debate of some kind), they're going to be pretty put out by having to wander off to make a music-related post, just so they can continue the aforementioned discussion.

However, it might be interesting to trial this in the future some time, perhaps only applying it to users with > 100 posts at first. You don't quite know until you try, after all.

Maybe if could be good to have a ratio or percentage bar. Just to see in which forums you post mostly in. I mean just because we want to operate a ratio function does not necessarily mean that we have to begin filtering people, right?

Not quite sure what you mean, Saiming...although it has always been the case that Off Topic is the most popular individual forum. Hardly surprising though, when you consider that the musical content is divided up among so many others.

Well. In the previous posts, people state that both should be applied, the ratio in order to filter away 'spammers.' What I was trying to do was to simply give a little bit of perspective. Why do we need both 'functions,' why can the ratio-meter not be applied without any other functionality tied to it.

Like Ralph suggested having a the ratio-meter so that the forum automatically restricts members, who have posted to little in other forums. My suggestion is simply that we talk away the restrictive part, for now. Simply adding the ratio-meter, nothing else.

I see - that could be a nifty idea. I'll have a think about it. :)

I see - that could be a nifty idea. I'll have a think about it. :)

Glad that you are considering it :)

Yes, then maybe this way we have cold hard evidence against the members who hardly ever come out of the cave we have come to call, "Off-Topic." Now we could say... "Your post ratio is far in favour of OT, why don't you go and actually contribute to the site or something?" Of course, I'm sure there are many numerous ways of putting it more politely...

Yes... I like this... :shifty:

Yeah. Make a bar under our avatars.

EG. Red = OT Green= non-OT

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Looks like the above guy loves the OT too much :dry:

Just ad idea though.

I LIKE it!!! It would encourage people to make more music posts.

We used to have stats on our posting tendencies... dunno where it went.

We used to have stats on our posting tendencies... dunno where it went.

Yes! I recall having them as well.

If you check a profile with more than 10 posts, you'll now see at the bottom a breakdown of where the user has posted during their time here. I just generated these statistics for all users on record with 10 or more posts, and from here on it should hopefully update itself every 24 hours by attending to users who posted during that period. This way, the information remains relevant and the server doesn't get choked.

Comments welcome, obviously. I think it's reasonably well presented - the only thing I feel I should mention is that the moderator and editor forums are in the Community category, so if you see any staff members with ratios leaning that way, it could be that.

Hah! Saiming loves the OT too much :P

Check out my stats, I'm proud of it.

VERY NICE!!! I like it a lot! Thanks Mike!

Hah! Saiming loves the OT too much :P

Check out my stats, I'm proud of it.

Yes. I know. I love the community :)

I am however trying to help the forum with bringing forward ideas and whatnot - although I doubt it is much appreciated :P

We could also have something like an "active posting" rating, that is, how many posts per day you have on active days (i.e. if you don't post for a whole day, it won't count as an active day). Because if someone is very active whenever he's online (say, 10 posts/day), but then he goes off for a few weeks, and then comes back again at 10 posts/day, it wouldn't be fair for him to have a rating of 2/posts per day, or even less than one post/day, since he is a very active member, but just not every single day.

Yay! *cheers secret forums*

We could also have something like an "active posting" rating, that is, how many posts per day you have on active days (i.e. if you don't post for a whole day, it won't count as an active day). Because if someone is very active whenever he's online (say, 10 posts/day), but then he goes off for a few weeks, and then comes back again at 10 posts/day, it wouldn't be fair for him to have a rating of 2/posts per day, or even less than one post/day, since he is a very active member, but just not every single day.

My gut reaction to that proposal is that it would be more trouble than it's worth, given the complexity of the algorithm. However, I will try to bring back "average posts per day", "percentage of total forum posts", etc.

Would it be possible to set up a ratio for posting in forums. Since it seems a lot of post for certain users tend to go to off-topic, I think there should be some kind of ratio between how many post you in non-off topic areas compared to how many you have in places that are not off topic.

Just idea, so let's say 1 in every 5 post have to be in a part of the forum that is not off topic and if you do not reach that ratio then off-topic automatically closes for you.

Mike doesn't have to program anything here, because this is going to be implemented in our social network. Our custom system will use various factors to determine which users comments are deemed "worthy", since we will have a grading system for music. The grading would be unfair if everyone's comments were treated equally. Therefore, your suggestion is actually already a part of our social network plan. Furthermore, what you suggest, will actually be a part of the many algorithms used to determine how a piece of music is ranked in our prototype custom search as well.

This new social network system is starting to get me thinking of a kind of YC Artificial Intelligence... :ermm:

:w00t:

*Ummph!*

Bah for double posting.

Say, would it be possible to add the number of posts to the percentage reading when the user mouseovers the bars? Like "32% of Total; 67 posts." (or maybe better reversed)

That is a smashing idea!