All music is an expression of love.

Agree/Disagree?

Why does a composer compose---because he loves what he does. Though he may have a programme concerning hatred, he writes the music because he loves to do so. Therefore, in essence, all music is written as an expression of Love.

You could apply that to anything. Me walking to the post office is an expression of my love for walking to post offices, that is the sole reason I do it. It doesn't matter if I walk in and murder the cashier with a sawn off shotgun.

If you think walking to the post office is an expression of love then I am kind of wary of what your compositions must sound like =)

You DO make a distinction between "Love," and "Like," don't you? I could imagine one saying that one LIKES to take a walk to the post office or something, but...Love? With a capital L? You, sir, are an donkey. :P

Though, if you're one of those individuals that writes hideous tangled masses of geometrically arranged yet inherently ugly musical crap, your position on Love would be quite consistent with your aesthetic. But, I haven't heard your music, so I'll reserve judgement ;)

My point is that even music that may be written about something other than love, is still an expression of love.

In the case of modern pop music, of course, that may not be the case since much of it is created simply to make money.

Pop music made solely to make money? naa, they love writing it, its their favorite 3 minutes of the day!

Back to subject, I dun believe so. I feel music as part of my life, but in that sence many a thing is done as an expression of love. I never really think about it that way.

I simply don't believe it. We were giving the gift to write music. It something we can do. It is kind of like a job. Just like an engineer designs a bridge, we write music. We don't really need to love what we do, just be good at it. I personal don't like to compose music and mostly do it on a whim. I am kind of stunned on how some of my pieces turned out. Turns out coffee and bagels do make good music.

To say all music is an expression of love is assine. We simply like to write music. some of us LOVE it but others like it. However, I think most of us put it as part of our daily life. Something that is just in us to do.

So overall, your reasoning is flawed again derek. Just because someone does something doesn't mean they love it. Being a composer is like being something else. You can do it but doesn't mean you love it.

Agreed, Don Nicola di Canzano.

Though Bitterduck does make an interesting point---wild, roaring passion is not, if ever, required to write a piece that might move others deeply. Some of my best ideas occur on days when I'm feeling just sort of at ease about things.

But we're really stretching the meaning of some words here. Why do I sit down and play? Because I was born able to do it? Hardly. I have been working up the ability to do this for years---why do I do this? Because I am utterly fascinated with and moved by the beauty of the piano--I love it with a capital L.

Why does a composer compose---because he loves what he does.

Depends. For a true artistic composer, agree. There is no other reason for him to compose, other than to compose for himself and for others enjoyment. For a composer who does it just to make money, or because he needs it for a certain project, disagree.

We were giving the gift to write music. It something we can do. It is kind of like a job.

Alot of you will disagree with me here, but as for my opinion, I don't believe writing music is a gift. I personally believe it is an acquired skill. I believe that our love to do the job is what makes some people able to write better than others. Sure you may hear about prodigies, but what is the real reason they are so good? Because of their true love for music.

To say all music is an expression of love is assine.

I agree. Not all music is an expression of love. Look at todays music. However, true artistic music I believe is an expression of love.

Yes I suppose it is a bit silly to say ALL music is an expression of love, I think I had just been listening to some of my own improvisations and since I listen to it so much I sometimes am under the brief assumption that it is the only music that exists, and since all of my music is an expression of love that was my conclusion.

Sorry about that! :P

Derek admitting he is wrong?

Oh, there's that pig I saw earlier. Just flew past my window.

:P

Well I never said my love suggestion was objective to begin with.

If you, Bitterduck and others perhaps remember my old post concerning what music IS, I shall never change my position on that. (if this inspires any thoughts, please look for the no spin zone thread a few pages back =) Because...I'm right :ninja: :P

Oh, there's that pig I saw earlier. Just flew past my window.

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..........OH, I get it now (When pigs fly - lol, I'm slow :P )

So anyway, you can love music but not all music is an expression of love. Actually, one of the things I like about music - especially orchestral music is that it can express ANY emotion. ALL emotions. That's why I compose in the orchestral genre - more specifically in the orch score genre - because I like expressing lots of different emotions. .