healey.cj Posted May 7, 2008 Posted May 7, 2008 Hey, I've just become Obsessed with Prokofiev's Violin concerto in D Major - The 3rd movement (moderato) Very beautiful piece. First section of the movement is this very romantic sounding melody line which sends shivers up my spine. Is anyone familiar without the ins and outs of such music and how one achieves such an effect? Is it the use of particular colour notes or chord extension? I know that it is definitely that Very high solo violin which creates a lot of the effect, but what melodically makes this so - almost - stereotypically romantic? Chris :-) Quote
Guest thatguy Posted May 7, 2008 Posted May 7, 2008 honestly, i would just look at the score to that piece, or any other piece thats you feel is "romantic" and see what they do. :D Quote
Gavin Gorrick Posted May 7, 2008 Posted May 7, 2008 Just buy "How To Write Romantic Music" by Eugene McSap Quote
healey.cj Posted May 7, 2008 Author Posted May 7, 2008 Just buy "How To Write Romantic Music" by Eugene McSap Lol thanks for the EXTREMELY helpful information. I just placed order on amazon. :angry: lol Quote
ablyth Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Prokofiev is not usually considered romantic. So maybe you are referring to something else - expressive melodic line, minor key harmonies, something else. Maybe there is a better expression than romantic that actually implies either candle-lit dinners for two or an exaggerated emotionalism and an obsession with the supernatural. Quote
Keerakh Kal Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 If you want romantic, just through a G+7(#9) chord in whatever you're writing. Kidding. I actually have no clue. I would a ssume that romantic music would be somewhat slow, psossibly in a major key, I but I don't care for major keys or slow music. Maybe I'm to young to write a romantic piece. Maybe you actually have to experience romance first. Ah well... ~Kal Quote
healey.cj Posted May 12, 2008 Author Posted May 12, 2008 Yes, you are right albyth. Romantic really isn't a good term for what I'm talking about. It isn't even particularly romantic. It is that very early-Stravinsky harmony and melodic stuff. Just gorgeous. I think it is the way the melody interacts with the lush minor-harmony chords. It seems to modulate every two bars nearly in the section I'm thinking of. I just had a look at the chord progression: For first 3 bars of the melody: Gdim alternating in quavers with a Gminor (6/3) chord. One bar of Bbm7 One bar of Dbdim7/E (natural) or something like that - alternating in quavers with Cminor one bar Ebm7 alternating with Gminor one bar Ab7 alt with Fminor Abm7 alt with Cmin etc. Not a major chord in sight (excluding the Ab7 base triad) Does the above mean anything to any of you? lol Chris :-) Quote
Stevemc90 Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 to comment on your Stravinsky example there is a pattern in the minor chord prgressions, the chords are moving by major third motion...for example Ebm7 to Gm belong in distant keys from eachother, hence the exotic sound Based on the harmony you seem to like, I'd suggest doing harmonic analysis of these Prelude and Liebestod (from Tristan und Isolde) - Wagner Prelude To The Afternoon of a Faun - Debussy Verklarte Nacht - Schoenberg Sonata No. 5 - Scriabin Quote
Flint Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 gotta love mediant and chromatic mediant modulations. :) Quote
Mark Posted May 12, 2008 Posted May 12, 2008 gotta love mediant and chromatic mediant modulations. :) QFTWTFLOL! :happy: Quote
Fermion Posted May 13, 2008 Posted May 13, 2008 I definitely would want to go to a LMAO Barbeque. That doesn't sound appetizing. Quote
almacg Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 It is that very early-Stravinsky harmony and melodic stuff. Got to agree, early Stravinsky produced some very beautiful music. Ravel and Debussy wrote some similar music; I'd recommend a listen to Daphnis and Chloe, and La Mer. Not necassarily romantic, but incredibly warm.Edit: with my last few posts, I've become an intermediate composer! I'm surely only a hundred-odd posts from being the next Wagner! Can't wait! Quote
determined Posted May 23, 2008 Posted May 23, 2008 I think romantic songs reveal the true meaning of love and listening to some beautiful romantic songs motivates me to composing one myself. Quote
chodelkovzart Posted July 2, 2008 Posted July 2, 2008 for some reason, baroque music can sometimes sound so "romantic" to me. its almost as if the more subtle the emotions are, the more romantic the music is. Quote
Salemosophy Posted July 5, 2008 Posted July 5, 2008 God... Some of you kids....Well if I go by some of your definitions and "feelings" then Berio's Sequenzas No. V and VI are very romantic because I've made passionate love while listening to them. Then my b/f cheated on me..> *honk* "Whhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhy??? *honk* Oh god... the foreshadowing. Well, how romantic is this story? Did he cheat on you with another woman or another man? I mean, Romanticism can get pretty juicy. Let's hear the details! Quote
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