Guest DOFTS Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 There are a few threads spread out among our forum requesting what piece of music evokes sadness. joy, etc while you listen to it. That's all find and dandy, but there are some of us here who find it hard to become so attach to music. So I ask, what music causes you to feel nothing(in a relative sense) but you still enjoy listening to it. Quote
Will Kirk Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 I occasionally listen to some old Swing music, doesn't really make me feel anything, just sounds really cool :P Quote
Guest thatguy Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 i dont feel anything by Mozart (that i've heard at least, granted i havent heard a lot of it), but i enjoy listening to it in the mornings...it helps me wake up Quote
robinjessome Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 There are a few threads spread out among our forum requesting what piece of music evokes sadness. joy, etc while you listen to it. That's all find and dandy, but there are some of us here who find it hard to become so attach to music. I don't tend to 'feel' any emotions per se (i.e. sadness, anger, etc...). I pick up on feelings of energy, and power. I feel when a composer/performer is injecting emotion, but I really don't care what it is. Quote
Chris Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 I don't tend to 'feel' any emotions per se (i.e. sadness, anger, etc...). I pick up on feelings of energy, and power. I feel when a composer/performer is injecting emotion, but I really don't care what it is. Yeah, very well put. DOFTS, if you are interested, there is a guy called Eckhart Tolle who explains this VERY well. :P Seriously though, if a piece of music actually made me SAD or ANGRY, if it actually injected those energies into me, there's NO WAY I would be dumb enough to actually listen to that music. For me there is like a hidden beauty behind the music. If you watch a film like Saving Private Ryan, which contains a lot of death and violence, it doesn't quite have the same meaning/energy as a Quentin Tarantino film that's also based in violence. Saving Private Ryan says, "Look at what humans did to each other, this is madness." It puts it in a new light, and carries a hidden beauty and awareness. Whereas Quentin Tarantino just says, "Violence is cool!", and doesn't really address the true consequences or causes. It's the same kind of thing when comparing a Beethoven piece which conveys anger, and some angry, commercial hip hop tune. One is powerful, one is weak (forceful). Quote
Gardener Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 I don't quite understand the question. Isn't enjoying something a feeling in the first place? Most of the times I don't feel anything like "sadness" or "happiness", but that doesn't mean I don't feel anything (even though it may be hard to describe what I feel). It just may be fascination, or something along this line. The only music where I'd say I feel "nothing" might be music I feel totally indifferent to and it doesn't interest me in the least. But I really can't imagine "enjoying" this kind of music. Quote
Guest DOFTS Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 I don't quite understand the question. Isn't enjoying something a feeling in the first place? Most of the times I don't feel anything like "sadness" or "happiness", but that doesn't mean I don't feel anything (even though it may be hard to describe what I feel). It just may be fascination, or something along this line.The only music where I'd say I feel "nothing" might be music I feel totally indifferent to and it doesn't interest me in the least. But I really can't imagine "enjoying" this kind of music. I mostly meant music that doesn't produce any great emotional responds in you , but you still like it. For example, I like the book, Happy to be here, but emotionally, mentally, or anything else, it really doesn't do much for me. Quote
Gavin Gorrick Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Being emotionless is an emotion. Nothing is still something. Quote
JoshMc Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 I mostly meant music that doesn't produce any great emotional responds in you , but you still like it. For example, I like the book, Happy to be here, but emotionally, mentally, or anything else, it really doesn't do much for me. It sounds like you just have trouble pinpointing what emotion it's effecting in you, not that it's not effecting you in an emotional way at all. I don't see how you can like something emotional without having your emotions hit at all. It's not like you're saying I like the theory of relativity but it doesn't make me feel anything. The whole point of music is to evoke a reaction of some sort. If there isn't any reaction at all then I wouldn't say you like it. Quote
robinjessome Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 The whole point of music is to evoke a reaction of some sort. If there isn't any reaction at all then I wouldn't say you like it. I don't think he's saying there's no reaction...it's just that the reaction isn't one of sadness, joy, anger... We're getting into worrisome semiotic territory (what is emotion). You should all read this book. It's fascinating: Amazon.com: This Is Your Brain on Music: The Science of a Human Obsession: Daniel J. Levitin: Books Quote
Gardener Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Being emotionless is an emotion. Nothing is still something. I don't think so. Quote
nikolas Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Phychology is still unable to map all human emotions down. It's quite difficult to pin point the begining of sorrow, sadness, lament, or the difference between love, cherrish, adorement, etc... There are more than 500 words to describe an emotion! I don't get emotions from music, as precisely as someone else, and probably this is why I'm having trouble putting them into my music. I'm no good as a film composer! ;) But I do get tendencies, power, energy from music. I always get something. If I don't I just lose interest Quote
Guest DOFTS Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 It sounds like you just have trouble pinpointing what emotion it's effecting in you, not that it's not effecting you in an emotional way at all. I don't see how you can like something emotional without having your emotions hit at all. It's not like you're saying I like the theory of relativity but it doesn't make me feel anything. The whole point of music is to evoke a reaction of some sort. If there isn't any reaction at all then I wouldn't say you like it. What if the reaction it seeks to evoke is the feeling of nothing? Quote
johnsamuelpike Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 I would have to say that for me it is an affinity of tastes. Quote
Flint Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 Being emotionless is an emotion. Nothing is still something.I disagree. That's like saying Not Collecting Stamps is your hobby. Quote
spherenine Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 I disagree. That's like saying Not Collecting Stamps is your hobby. It's more like saying that being hopeless means that you still have hope. Either way, it's stupid. :cool: Quote
Nirvana69 Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 This is strictly subjective but I feel the difference between good music and great music is some sort of emotional connection. It's one thing to hear a sappy piano piece and interpret it as sad. It's quite another to actually *feel* sorrow from it. All of my favorite music is music that moves me in some way. Appealing to the ears makes good music. Appealing to the soul makes great music. That being said though, I do enjoy Liszt's music despite not really "feeling" anything from it. Quote
Gavin Gorrick Posted May 9, 2008 Posted May 9, 2008 It's more like saying that being hopeless means that you still have hope. Either way, it's stupid. :cool: What wasn't that fucken enlightening Quote
JoshMc Posted May 10, 2008 Posted May 10, 2008 What if the reaction it seeks to evoke is the feeling of nothing? I have a hard time seeing how that would be possible while still being something you like. Do you mean a piece that tries to evoke emptiness? That would still be an emotion to me. Maybe it's just me but I really can't fathom how music that doesn't evoke any emotion at all can still be likable. Even being able to say that you enjoy a piece implies to me that it makes you feel joy. Quote
JoshMc Posted May 10, 2008 Posted May 10, 2008 super mario bros theme songs. I get nostalgic and/or happy-go-lucky feelings from that. Quote
Fermion Posted May 10, 2008 Posted May 10, 2008 When a song has a thin texture, and is very treble-y, it almost feels like nothing... But a better descriptor would probalby "desolate". Which is sort of like nothing, right? Quote
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