Pieces everyone else likes but you

Usually almost anything by Brahms. His orchestration is spectacularly mediocre IMO, which ruins any impact his grandiose orchestral pieces might have had for me.

Beyond that he just seems to lack any significant ability to develop his ideas (which are nice in and of themselves) beyond 8-16 bar phrases. Everything he writes seems to consist of a collection of different ideas separated by broken/transparent transitional material.

His violin concerto first movement is a perfect example of this. It's like he wrote a 7 minute concerto and then repeated it 3 times because Beethoven was making him feel insecure. It drives me crazy how at the end of the third movement the music tapers off into a piano mellowing out and then just to make sure we know that his music is romantic and that it's ending he throws in the "sup Beethoven" forte everything plays 10 second cadence.

Other than that, anything written early on in Mozart's life tend to be impressive for his age and not much else. When we play Mozart Symphony no 1, we arent doing it because of the music.

Ummm.... and to be honest there is plenty of Bach that I dont care much for. He himself said that anyone could do what he did if they followed the proper steps. He described his act of composing as more of a craft than an art, which is I guess how I feel about a large portion of his music. There's some really cool stuff he did, but plenty of it is easily replicated.

That's what comes to mind.

Show me the best example of you replicating Bach's music.

Prokofiev

Shostakovich

Stravinsky (I fail to see how he is 'Neo-classical')

Don't think I'm hating on 20th century now; there is some amazing music from the 20th century.

Stravinsky (I fail to see how he is 'Neo-classical')

He had three distinct periods. Only one (and arguably the least Stravinsky-esque) was neo-classical.

Stuff like Rite of Spring and Petrushka were from before his Neo-Classical period.

If you want his neoclassical music, go for his Violin Concerto, Dumbarton Oaks, or Pulcinella. His symphonies, too.

By the way, Schubert is my homeboy, you really shouldn't just list off composers. The thread is about pieces you don't like, and you didn't even really explain yourself at all.

Sorry, Qmwne235..

I think I just went ranting in broken thoughts - my fault.

As for the whole neo-classical Stravinsky, I gave a listen all of the pieces you suggested, and I don't hear anything classical about them. I just don't know...

Homeboy, this might mean that you don't quite understand what the term "classical" means in "neo-classical".

It doesn't mean "sounds like mozart".

I guess we can't force him if he just doesn't hear it...

But honestly, who would say THIS doesn't sound neo-classical?:

:P

I guess we can't force him if he just doesn't hear it...

But honestly, who would say THIS doesn't sound neo-classical?:

:P

Wouldnt that be considerd more classical than neo-classical?

Well it's subtle (mostly), but he used some modern harmonies and rhythms so it's 'neo' rather than straight up classical.