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I am playing the renouned requiem by John Rutter with my ensemble. I was just wandering if any of you thought this was as great of a piece as I did. We are currently practicing the Pie Jesu movement. I think it is very relaxing.

Its in F major(1 flat), which is really quite simple compared to some of Rutter's more serious melodies. A mass for the dead, and certainly has stong emotional value. By the way, if you haven't heard of it, I would strongly recommend giving it a lesson. Also, I would love to discuss chord structure in the 5th movement. But I 'll leave that to someone else to start.

Just wanted to tell you what was new in my ensemble.

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It's a nice work.

I love Rutter's effortless melodic writing.

If you like Rutter's stuff, you should check out Rene Clausen.

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Rene Clausen is another one of my somewhat modern favorites. I must ask you though, since her works are so bountiful, which would you prefer me to listen to.

Pssst.... He's a man.

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The climax of the third movement, 'Pie Jesu', is possibly one of the sweetest climaxes to any work, or that is my opinion at least.

We're practicing that and the fifth movement, 'Agnus Dei', quite the different feeling.

However, the concluding melody of the first movement was the reason for the writing of this thread.

Any thoughts?

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By the way hopper, how would you like to contribute to my thread?

Well, I'd recommend Clausen's "A New Creation". "Set Me as a Seal" is undoubtedly the most popular of the movements, but some of the other ones are quite good too.

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I can't stand this kind of music, which to me sounds like a piece of utterly uninteresting kitschy choral schlock infused with cheap pop-like banalities. Rutter is in the same league as that other British composer of gawdy kitsch garbage, Andrew Lloyd Webber...

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nah...I took some in grade school, but since then I've only had a lot of French and a decent amount of Spanish.

I know the basic meaning of the standard requiem mvts b/c of other studies, though.

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I can't stand this kind of music, which to me sounds like a piece of utterly uninteresting kitschy choral schlock infused with cheap pop-like banalities. Rutter is in the same league as that other British composer of gawdy kitsch garbage, Andrew Lloyd Webber...

I have to agree, but only in the instances when Rutter is trying to do something in a "serious" vein. As an arranger and composer of lighter music, he hits the mark quite well.

That said, there are parts of the Requiem that find me liking them in spite of myself. I'd still rather sing Durufle or Faure for something that borders on a modern expression.

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I can't stand this kind of music, which to me sounds like a piece of utterly uninteresting kitschy choral schlock infused with cheap pop-like banalities. Rutter is in the same league as that other British composer of gawdy kitsch garbage, Andrew Lloyd Webber...

If this is your opinion, you might want to check out the 30-something composer, Dan Forrest.

Especially of note is his deeply expressive work with minimalist touches, "Words from Paradise." It's an arch of 5 a capella mvts. that each colorfully set one word of Hebrew origin.

Here's the link to "Words From Paradise:" Search Results

(click on "Holy" and "Amen" for two movements from the set)

Exquisite and entrancing. Check it out; you'll be pleasantly surprised!

This is Forrest's page:

ForrestWorks: The Music of Dan Forrest

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I know I started this thread to honor the piece, but I'm certainly entertained by the mixture of opinion surrounding the Rutter Requiem. Such a thing is a pleasant surprise in a thread based for chord structure.

Thank you all for posting in my thread.

This is my first internet community, and I love the experience of speaking with all of you fine musicians.

Also, though irrelevant, what do you think of Steven Amundson.

My ensemble resently sightread his 'Timepiece' work. It had quite the modern twist to a classic theme.

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