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7) Any other major works that grab your fancy (except Brahms or Chopin, because they were a terrible orchestrators)

:huh: I always thought brahms was a good orchestrator. Not spectacular or inventive. But still good, well crafted.

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Yeah, really. I'd be very happy if I could orchestrate like Brahms. Comparing him to Chopin is just totally off…

The thing about Brahms is that he treats the orchestra like a large chamber music ensemble. That is seen by some as "bad orchestration" since he doesn't tend to make use of "orchestral effects" as much as other composers. But you got to see this as exactly the value of his works - it plays totally differently than, say, a Bruckner symphony, and personally, I think in a rather good way. Maybe it's just because his horn writing was so exceptional, but I've rarely enjoyed playing a composer in an orchestra more than Brahms (and Beethoven, for that matter).

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