indreamweaver708 Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Well, I have trouble recognizing scales, and I wrote this intro to a song a while ago (the intro is completely diatonic, I think), but I forgot the scale I used to write it in. It's probably something obvious, but I'm having trouble thinking now. Anyways, the notes are: A, B Flat, B, D, E Flat, E, F, G Can you help me out? Quote
Ananth Balijepalli Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 It is the Bb Locrian scale (natural) but.. scales are defined loosely. you have to find the tonal center chord, and that determines the scale. Quote
robinjessome Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 It is the Bb Locrian scale (natural) No it's not. The D, Eb, E, F doesn't occur in any natural major or minor scale...nor in any synthetic scale of which I'm aware. (i.e. Whole-tone, diminished) A, Bb, B, D, Eb, E, F, G ?? The closest is "A" Locrian (7th mode of Bb-major scale) ... but the E-nat kind-of kills that one. You've got an invented, synthetic scale...likely with no common name. :whistling: Quote
indreamweaver708 Posted March 10, 2009 Author Posted March 10, 2009 Well, the tonal center of the piece was E Flat, I think? But after going through it, I realized that the E seemed completely unrelated to the rest of the music, so I modified the piece a little bit. Still, what scale would A, B Flat, B, D, E Flat, F, G be? Quote
robinjessome Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 Well, the tonal center of the piece was E Flat, I think? But after going through it, I realized that the E seemed completely unrelated to the rest of the music, so I modified the piece a little bit. Still, what scale would A, B Flat, B, D, E Flat, F, G be? It's still a little iffy. Eb, F, G, A, Bb, Cb, D You've got some sort of Lydian-Harmonic-Major. ...still, not a naturally occurring scale. Quote
Ananth Balijepalli Posted March 10, 2009 Posted March 10, 2009 OHHH I didn't see the E natural lol. THAT, kids, is an example of how your brain fills in the blanks. Edit: .. or the B natural. Edit again: But anyway, why does it matter what the scale is? If you have a melody, then the harmony can change beneath it, and if it changes chromatically, then yes, your melody will change chromatically too. So you could harmonize your melody (given passing chords) as : V - vi - #VIo - IV - #IVo - V - vi .. Or whatever is the case. Quote
indreamweaver708 Posted March 10, 2009 Author Posted March 10, 2009 I've been looking at it more and more and your right, it's basically the A Locrian, it's just the E and B notes are altered. Thanks for the help. Quote
indreamweaver708 Posted March 10, 2009 Author Posted March 10, 2009 OHHH I didn't see the E natural lol.THAT, kids, is an example of how your brain fills in the blanks. Edit: .. or the B natural. Edit again: But anyway, why does it matter what the scale is? If you have a melody, then the harmony can change beneath it, and if it changes chromatically, then yes, your melody will change chromatically too. So you could harmonize your melody (given passing chords) as : V - vi - #VIo - IV - #IVo - V - vi .. Or whatever is the case. Oh, well it was the 2nd piece I ever composed, and I remember I used to only right music back then using only diatonic ideas, so when I was looking over it, the notes looked kinda funny to me. Also, the intro part I was referring to, when I wrote music back then, I paid no attention to the harmonic relationship between notes. I just looked at the instruments and tried to forge three seperate melodies. And, I was just looking over what chords were formed by the relationship between the melodies, and they were all....extremely exotic, most of which weren't even based on "traditional" triads; but I guess that'd be pretty hard to do, with only three voicings, and I wasn't really paying attention to the harmony at the time. So, I decided I would just continue to try and continue the piece, like how I originally wrote it. Quote
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