Tokkemon Posted June 25, 2009 Posted June 25, 2009 Through several days of work, I have finally finished my recent pet project. I have uploaded the entire set of symphonies of Gustav Mahler to YouTube. The videos are a complete set of the symphonies, including Das Lied von der Erde, conducted by Leonard Bernstein in the 1970s. All except for two (2nd and Das Lied) are performed by the Vienna Philharmonic; some of the best performances I have ever heard of the Mahler Symphonies. Please do check them out! Commenet, rate, subscribe, all that jazz. The Symphonies are divided into parts organized into Playlists as follows: Symphony No. 1, "Titan" Symphony No. 2, "Resurrection" Symphony No. 3 Symphony No. 4 Symphony No. 5 Symphony No. 6, "Tragic" Symphony No. 7 Symphony No. 8, "Symphony of a Thousand" Symphony No. 9 Symphony No. 10, Adagio Das Lied von der Erde Please enjoy! Quote
robinjessome Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 I know YouTube is full of stuff like this, but isn't it illegal? :huh: Quote
SYS65 Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 Thanks for the links, but I did buy the DVD collection some months ago .... is anything similar available for Shostakovich ? .... Quote
Zepoha Heampe Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 Thanks a lot! Is anything similar available for Shostakovich? :D Quote
SYS65 Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 no it's just Delay Effect :laugh: I've seen a DVD with Shostakovich Sym. 6 & 9 and it seems to be a collection but I've never seen the others symphonies .... "they" did only record the Sym 6 & 9 ? ... why oh God!!! Quote
Zepoha Heampe Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 It's just "Copy-Paste Effect" :D it seems to be a collection This DVD isn't part of a collection, sadly. Quote
YC26 Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 Really.... You should get the Barshai cycle of Shostakovich... Cheap and good. Quote
Voce Posted June 29, 2009 Posted June 29, 2009 Really.... You should get the Barshai cycle of Shostakovich... Cheap and good. Barshai's is very good; Rostropovich's is pretty nice too. Quote
Zepoha Heampe Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Shostakovich? Barshai? DVD? Rostropovich? Symphony? DVD??? Quote
Muzic Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 You should go to therapy for your Mahler fetish. we need to make a support group on this forum:P Quote
Old Composer Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 I know YouTube is full of stuff like this, but isn't it illegal?:huh: That's why I came in here. Question - if it's being linked to from YC, could that potentially bring retribution upon this place? Quote
Tokkemon Posted June 30, 2009 Author Posted June 30, 2009 That's why I came in here.Question - if it's being linked to from YC, could that potentially bring retribution upon this place? Not likely. It was my descision to post the links. If YouTube suddenly decides to remove the videos, I'll do it voluntarily. YouTube doesn't enforce the copyright laws at all unless its a major corporation involved. You can find many videos of pop songs, jazz, and classical alike, all copyrighted. Quote
robinjessome Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Not likely. It was my descision to post the links. If YouTube suddenly decides to remove the videos, I'll do it voluntarily. YouTube doesn't enforce the copyright laws at all unless its a major corporation involved. You can find many videos of pop songs, jazz, and classical alike, all copyrighted. Sure...but, don't you feel bad? Y'know...aiding in the theft of intellectual property from Bernstein, The Vienna Philharmonic and Mr. Mahler himself. :whistling: That said, even I have copywritten stuff posted...but I would feel completely awkward to post an entire concert - let alone a whole DVD box set. As I'm embarking on a full-fledged career, I'm starting to see more clearly why it's important to protect your "product" ... if everyone can get it all for free, I don't get to eat. Quote
Zepoha Heampe Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 YouTube: Flash videos and lossy [low or mid-quality] MP3s DVDs: High quality videos and lossless [high quality] sounds. YouTube: Watch free DVDs: Buy with money Quote
Gardener Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 Just upload a bad recording to youtube and hope that the compression compresses away all bad elements! Worth a try! Quote
nikolas Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 That said, even I have copywritten stuff posted...but I would feel completely awkward to post an entire concert - let alone a whole DVD box set. As I'm embarking on a full-fledged career, I'm starting to see more clearly why it's important to protect your "product" ... if everyone can get it all for free, I don't get to eat. Indeed. Then again the value of what Justin did, I think, lies on the educational edge and nowhere else. I'm very torn on this very issue with youtube videos! Quote
EldKatt Posted June 30, 2009 Posted June 30, 2009 DVDs: Buy with money This should be the slogan for the MPAA's next anti-piracy campaign. Sorry for the tangent, folks. I just find this hilarious. Quote
Anton Bruckner Posted July 7, 2009 Posted July 7, 2009 thanks to you, the musicians involved in making that video will receive less royalties, is this your way of helping the already dying classical music industry? Really.... You should get the Barshai cycle of Shostakovich... Cheap and good. Yes, that and Sanderling's. Quote
Tokkemon Posted September 1, 2009 Author Posted September 1, 2009 thanks to you, the musicians involved in making that video will receive less royalties, is this your way of helping the already dying classical music industry? The recordings here are from the 1970s. Most of the people in the videos are dead, not to mention Bernstein himself. Besides, I doubt the musicians would see royalties from the videos, only the record company Deutsche Gramophone. Also, I don't think internet piracy is the reason classical music is dying, since it was dying the instant conductors started listening to their board members and not the ticketholders on repertoire choices (a la 1930s+) but thats a WHOLE other topic that I don't wanna start here. Quote
Nirvana69 Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 Also, I don't think internet piracy is the reason classical music is dying, since it was dying the instant conductors started listening to their board members and not the ticketholders on repertoire choices (a la 1930s+) but thats a WHOLE other topic that I don't wanna start here. lulz Quote
Salemosophy Posted September 1, 2009 Posted September 1, 2009 That's why I came in here.Question - if it's being linked to from YC, could that potentially bring retribution upon this place? Just for the record: Web forums are particularly well-protected from 'retribution'. First and foremost, to be held liable for anything posted on this forum, a plaintiff would have to first get around the Communications Decency Act. This legislation protects electronic media (like web forums) from being held liable for the information supplied by third parties. Next, the plaintiff would have to establish a basis for filing a complaint based on relevant case law. From my research into this, there is only one case where a website was sued for allowing 'housing discrimination' on their website, and that was Craigslist. In the complaint, the plaintiff cited that because Craigslist did not moderate the conduct of its posters advertising the sale of their homes to "only white buyers" or "not hispanics" that it was a violation of the fair housing act. Since a) it is a link to another website and b) it was published by a third party, the 'legal' case is quite weak. Of course, it's important to keep an eye out for new legislation because it appears to be an ongoing issue. Quote
Tokkemon Posted September 1, 2009 Author Posted September 1, 2009 lulz Umm, why? My logic behind that (after studying it in Sociology) was that the board members (who admitedly brought in the money) were quite passive in the early days of orchestral music. It wasn't so much about the music for them as the prestige and glamour of "going to the Met" or "going to Carnegie" for a concert by the New York Symphony. But after the Gilded Age was over and the onset of WWI and the Great Depression changed all that, they started to care more about the "music" that was coming out of modern composers because they were considered more "intellectual" than the plebeian masses of ticketholders which filled the orchestra section. They filled programs with music that the majority of people didn't understand and didn't want to hear, things like Schoenberg, Weber, Boulez, etc. The divide between "concert-goer" and "concert-funder" was at an all-time high. It is only recently that this divide is starting to erode with the internet bringing classical music to millions of people that hadn't heard it before, and the new era of composers that reject the modernist (and post-modernist, to an extent) ideals writing for what people want. Quote
Qmwne235 Posted September 2, 2009 Posted September 2, 2009 But after the Gilded Age was over and the onset of WWI and the Great Depression changed all that, they started to care more about the "music" that was coming out of modern composers because they were considered more "intellectual" than the plebeian masses of ticketholders which filled the orchestra section. I wasn't aware that plebian masses of ticketholders ever flooded the concert halls. Except, like, a couple centuries ago with opera, except back then, people didn't go to the opera to watch the opera. And by the way, the modern composers did just fine in terms of popularity. Quote
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