Gavin Gorrick Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 from Christian Schubart's Ideen zu einer Aesthetik der Tonkunst (1806) C Major Completely Pure. Its character is: innocence, simplicity, na�vety, children's talk. C Minor Declaration of love and at the same time the lament of unhappy love. All languishing, longing, sighing of the love-sick soul lies in this key. Db Major A leering key, degenerating into grief and rapture. It cannot laugh, but it can smile; it cannot howl, but it can at least grimace its crying.--Consequently only unusual characters and feelings can be brought out in this key. C# Minor Penitential lamentation, intimate conversation with God, the friend and help-meet of life; sighs of disappointed friendship and love lie in its radius. D Major The key of triumph, of Hallejuahs, of war-cries, of victory-rejoicing. Thus, the inviting symphonies, the marches, holiday songs and heaven-rejoicing choruses are set in this key. D Minor Melancholy womanliness, the spleen and humours brood. Eb Major The key of love, of devotion, of intimate conversation with God. D# Minor Feelings of the anxiety of the soul's deepest distress, of brooding despair, of blackest depresssion, of the most gloomy condition of the soul. Every fear, every hesitation of the shuddering heart, breathes out of horrible D# minor. If ghosts could speak, their speech would approximate this key. E Major Noisy shouts of joy, laughing pleasure and not yet complete, full delight lies in E Major. E minor Na�ve, womanly innocent declaration of love, lament without grumbling; sighs accompanied by few tears; this key speaks of the imminent hope of resolving in the pure happiness of C major. F Major Complaisance & Calm. F Minor Deep depression, funereal lament, groans of misery and longing for the grave. F# Major Triumph over difficulty, free sigh of relief utered when hurdles are surmounted; echo of a soul which has fiercely struggled and finally conquered lies in all uses of this key. F# Minor A gloomy key: it tugs at passion as a dog biting a dress. Resentment and discontent are its language. G Major Everything rustic, idyllic and lyrical, every calm and satisfied passion, every tender gratitude for true friendship and faithful love,--in a word every gentle and peaceful emotion of the heart is correctly expressed by this key. G Minor Discontent, uneasiness, worry about a failed scheme; bad-tempered gnashing of teeth; in a word: resentment and dislike. Ab Major Key of the grave. Death, grave, putrefaction, judgment, eternity lie in its radius. Ab Minor Grumbler, heart squeezed until it suffocates; wailing lament, difficult struggle; in a word, the color of this key is everything struggling with difficulty. A Major This key includes declarations of innocent love, satisfaction with one's state of affairs; hope of seeing one's beloved again when parting; youthful cheerfulness and trust in God. A minor Pious womanliness and tenderness of character. Bb Major Cheerful love, clear conscience, hope aspiration for a better world. Bb minor A quaint creature, often dressed in the garment of night. It is somewhat surly and very seldom takes on a pleasant countenance. Mocking God and the world; discontented with itself and with everything; preparation for suicide sounds in this key. B Major Strongly coloured, announcing wild passions, composed from the most glaring coulors. Anger, rage, jealousy, fury, despair and every burden of the heart lies in its sphere. B Minor This is as it were the key of patience, of calm awaiting ones's fate and of submission to divine dispensation. Quote
johnoeth Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 A few of these made me lul even though I've already seen them. "Eb Major The key of love, of devotion, of intimate conversation with God." "F# Minor A gloomy key: it tugs at passion as a dog biting a dress. Resentment and discontent are its language." I don't agree or think the concept is valid except for C major being "naive" or the allusion of it. Only for the performer that is. Quote
Dan Gilbert Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Isn't this completely obsolete since the invention of modern even temperament tuning, since now the only difference between each key is that it is higher or lower in frequency? Quote
Gavin Gorrick Posted July 24, 2009 Author Posted July 24, 2009 Isn't this completely obsolete since the invention of modern even temperament tuning, since now the only difference between each key is that it is higher or lower in frequency? That's just your opinion Quote
johnoeth Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 In case of an emergency, use E# minor. BUT THAT'S NOT ON THE LIST! Quote
SSC Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 BUT THAT'S NOT ON THE LIST! That's why you have to break the glass, silly. It's too powerful/emotional/controversial for REGULAR use! Quote
YC26 Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Isn't this completely obsolete since the invention of modern even temperament tuning, since now the only difference between each key is that it is higher or lower in frequency? lmao Emotions/ feelings/ programs assigned to keys irregardless? lmao Quote
Dan Gilbert Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 When in E# minor, at what point do you justify going into flats? Or are you just stuck in sharps forever!? :O These are the thoughts that keep me up at night. Quote
SSC Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Clearly you use flats in E# minor when you modulate to Cb major, easy! Quote
johnoeth Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 We should make a new list with adjectives like badass, awesome, and mondo stoked. Quote
SYS65 Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 I think all those descriptions can be easily taken down ... can be and had beed already.... Quote
YC26 Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Ugh... COLOR. WE ARE AMERICAN. My god... Didn't your second grade teacher tell you to not spell like you live in another country... And I wouldn't be surprised if you bought into this. Quote
Voce Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Lmao. "If ghosts could speak, their speech would approximate this key." What a guy. Quote
Student_of_Mozart Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Hmmm...colors. I see keys in colors sometimes. :) I agree, this is a bit dated, but if you want to compose in an older style, then this is a must have. Quote
YC26 Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 Hmmm...colors. I see keys in colors sometimes. :)I agree, this is a bit dated, but if you want to compose in an older style, then this is a must have. LMAO. No, I don't think it is. I'm pretty sure 18th century theory and harmony have EVERYTHING to do with colors. Quote
johnoeth Posted July 24, 2009 Posted July 24, 2009 LMAO.No, I don't think it is. I'm pretty sure 18th century theory and harmony have EVERYTHING to do with colors. Didn't you know that Mozart wrote out his scores with a paint brush instead of ink? Fun fact. Quote
James H. Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 Look harder. :huh: @johnoeth: I knew Mozart wrote his horn concertos in several different coloured inks, but that was just to annoy his friend Leutgeb, who played them. But I've never heard of him using a paintbrush, where did you hear that? Hmmm...colors. I see keys in colors sometimes. :)I agree, this is a bit dated, but if you want to compose in an older style, then this is a must have. I think there is a joy in thinking in line with older times, such as associating certain colours or emotions with keys. Today it's not as serious a matter as it may have been in the past, but in the past there were usually reasons for these things. For instance, D major being a key of triumph, victory, because at one time it was well suited for trumpets. I think these connections, while obsolete in modern technology, still linger with the heart of some composers as sort of a recreational meandering of the past, while other composers insist entirely that it is not worth the effort to carry on like this, that it is silly. Well, it is silly. But damn it, it can be fun sometimes! Ugh... COLOR.WE ARE AMERICAN. My god... So you're going to yell at every Brit that walks onto this forum and spells something unAmerican? "WE" are not American, this forum consists of more than Americans, why do you take such issue with my decision of preference towards a British aesthetic in spelling habits? If anything, it's really none of your business, whether I'm American or not. Quote
YC26 Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 So you're going to yell at every Brit that walks onto this forum and spells something unAmerican? "WE" are not American, this forum consists of more than Americans, why do you take such issue with my decision of preference towards a British aesthetic in spelling habits? If anything, it's really none of your business, whether I'm American or not. They can do it because they are are British. You are American. I am American. WE, LITERALLY, are American. I woudn't know that if you didn't plaser your location all over the internet with a personal webpage, or how you used to have it in your signature. My god, my English simply means what it says. Quote
James H. Posted July 25, 2009 Posted July 25, 2009 Let me simply that paragraph: why do you even care? I won't respond to your follow-up, nor do I really expect you to bother answering. However, the question still stands. Quote
DeepSeaSeamus Posted July 26, 2009 Posted July 26, 2009 Are there any soft-synths out there that use the old tuning temperaments? I'd like to fool around with them. Quote
Kamen Posted August 5, 2009 Posted August 5, 2009 With 12 TET, this is, if not completely irrelevant, not so important. Quote
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