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What I personally often wonder about is how so many people can find bird calls beautiful and "atonal music"/"dissonance"/whatever ugly at the same time. Birds don't usually tweet in major triads, do they? Fair enough, maybe those people don't actually find the sounds of the birds beautiful, but just the connotation to nature etc. - but this only goes to show that quite often it's such very "unmusical" preconceptions that make us like something or dislike it.

It's kind of similar with colours too. People often have such strong ideas about what colours "shouldn't be combined" in a painting because they "clash" - but they usually have no issues when a flower does this very thing in extreme, just because a flower is "supposed to be beautiful".

The musician wren is, I think, one of a very few exceptions. The bird's call tends to outline 2nd-inversion triads, with the fifth alternating between natural and quarter-flat - it sometimes also will "develop" a motif with other intervals before returning to the base.

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If you make a song so long that it covers every style of music in existence and more, then it's bound to appeal to everyone at some point down the line. I think that's what cage was trying with his organ piece

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If you make a song so long that it covers every style of music in existence and more, then it's bound to appeal to everyone at some point down the line. I think that's what cage was trying with his organ piece

Which organ piece?

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Why clash notes? I dunno; is that a rhetorical question? My guess is to convey emotion, to be resolved, or because you feel it's necessary for the piece?

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eww... this is NOT the best dissonant version of it... check:

I will agree the VocalEssence is the best MUSICALLY, but I think if you are trying to freak people at dissonance, the UST singers is the most dissonant on Youtube. They tend to be a LITTLE more messy and hit chords a little harder, so it's more crunchy. lol. or... crunchier. lol.

HOWEVER... the dissonance in this is the COOLEST. I cry every time. lol.

Haha, the ust singers, also from Philippines. :)

I love that piece. That's all. :P

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