melloth Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 I asked this question because i am really comfused,because i am working on 12 transcendental etudes for piano inspired by Rach,Liszt,Chopin,Sorabji and I have completed all 11 etudes,but i lost inspiration for the 1st one which is called Grand Opening,and i dont know how to compose it....... By the way names of etudes are 1.Grand Opening 2.Appasionata 3.Noise (All chords in sixteens) 4.Space 5.Spanish Danza 6.Quasi Simphony 7.Transcription of John Cage`s work 4`33 8.For left hand 9.Appasionata 2 10.Clair de Lune 11.Rotting 12.Death Quote
Gijs Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 Bach learned from studying Vivaldi-scores how to make a dramatic opening. Maybe you can check Vivaldi out too. Or Bach. Quote
Ferkungamabooboo Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 Check out Mussorgsky's promenade... that's pretty grand. Quote
jrcramer Posted August 24, 2009 Posted August 24, 2009 Opening of Prokofievs first pianoconcerto is huge :D Quote
Weca Posted August 29, 2009 Posted August 29, 2009 Opening of Prokofievs first pianoconcerto is huge :D THIS. Quote
Kamen Posted August 29, 2009 Posted August 29, 2009 Define 'best beginning'. And how do these works relate to your own? You want to compose a similar beginning or...? Quote
composerorganist Posted August 29, 2009 Posted August 29, 2009 How about Ives Concord Symphony 1st movement - take practically any portion for a grand opening. YouTube - Ives Concord Sonata "Hawthorne" 1/2 I have posted this piece before but it is a great opening - Chopin's B minor Scherzo, also the opening two chords of the B major Nocturne Op 62 (when you hear it you'll say to yourself, so that is where Art Tatum got his inspiration for his harmonies!) - plus I do agree it is probably one of the best Nocturnes Chopin ever wrote. YouTube - Arrau in Boston. Chopin, Scherzo 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDYZ9W11G1k A revolutionary work for its time the Beethoven hammerklavier 1st movment. brendel makes it sound SOOOO easy. it isn't. Note I know from an acquaintance brendel had his students finger every note. This explains his scrupulous approach. YouTube - Arrau in Boston. Chopin, Scherzo 1 Another Beethoven Sonata which has a great opening - the Op 111 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kA8O6rv76U Posted this before, but the opening of the Schumann in C is justifiably a famous one - predates Impressionism by several decades (even before Listz's proto Impressionism in his later style before he dove into what would be common in the first half of the 20th century). Quote
composerorganist Posted August 29, 2009 Posted August 29, 2009 Here is a portion of a rather gorgeous and introspective Morton Feldman piece, a nice anti-grand opening I find Feldman and beethoven are similar in that they are able to take motivic cells and repeat them with incredible degrees of variety and yet maintain continuity. Oh forgot Grieg - Lyric pieces. This one is interesting as the wandering harmonies of the opening seems to betray the folkloric material that comes up soon afterward yet it is quite cohesive as the 0pening material is just a diminuition of the folkloric melody with a much faster harmonic changes. Plus it helps this material recurs giving us a slight elaborated ternary form. Quote
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