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I was wondering how irony and romance can be together on an instrumental piece.

The only thing that comes to me is the progression of fifths C, G7, C7, F7, Bb7 Eb7, Ab7 (with minor 7th of course)

...and the other one is with diminished chords like C, Ddim, Dbdim, Cdim, Bdim, Bbdim and so on...

And those two ways are to help the melody be as more chromatic.

So can you tell me another way that you think that might express better irony and romance???

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Any chord sequence that you think of as representing "irony and romance" will, most likely, only represent these concepts in your own mind. Specific concepts like that generally have to be related to something extramusical to get the point across.

All you have is a bunch of chords. The listener will only percieve them as "ironic" or "romantic" if you actually tell them "look at how romantic and ironic this is!"

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I dont believe there is a universal way to identify a chord progression with emotion. I even think its possible for the same progression to depict opposite feelings when scored differently.

How come you have the modernistic view that there is a direct relation?

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  On 11/22/2009 at 2:10 AM, Voce said:

Any chord sequence that you think of as representing "irony and romance" will, most likely, only represent these concepts in your own mind. Specific concepts like that generally have to be related to something extramusical to get the point across.

All you have is a bunch of chords. The listener will only percieve them as "ironic" or "romantic" if you actually tell them "look at how romantic and ironic this is!"

I know that they are a bunch of chords but this is the main concept that came to me first and I don't won't to write something extramusical.How do you think romance and irony can represented?I mean should I consentrate more on harmony on orchestration and in which way???

I forgot that the piece is for a love-scene (short-film) but the director wants the music to be romantic of course with some ironic sparks...

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  On 11/22/2009 at 2:10 AM, Voce said:

Any chord sequence that you think of as representing "irony and romance" will, most likely, only represent these concepts in your own mind. Specific concepts like that generally have to be related to something extramusical to get the point across.

All you have is a bunch of chords. The listener will only percieve them as "ironic" or "romantic" if you actually tell them "look at how romantic and ironic this is!"

I know that they are a bunch of chords but this is the main concept that came to me first and I don't won't to write something extramusical.How do you think romance and irony can represented?I mean should I consentrate more on harmony on orchestration and in which way???

I forgot that the piece is for a love-scene (short-film) but the director wants the music to be romantic of course with some ironic sparks...

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  On 11/22/2009 at 2:10 AM, Voce said:

Any chord sequence that you think of as representing "irony and romance" will, most likely, only represent these concepts in your own mind. Specific concepts like that generally have to be related to something extramusical to get the point across.

All you have is a bunch of chords. The listener will only percieve them as "ironic" or "romantic" if you actually tell them "look at how romantic and ironic this is!"

I know that they are a bunch of chords but this is the main concept that came to me first and I don't won't to write something extramusical.How do you think romance and irony can represented?I mean should I consentrate more on harmony on orchestration and in which way???

I forgot that the piece is for a love-scene (short-film) but the director wants the music to be romantic of course with some ironic sparks...

Posted
  On 11/22/2009 at 2:10 AM, Voce said:

Any chord sequence that you think of as representing "irony and romance" will, most likely, only represent these concepts in your own mind. Specific concepts like that generally have to be related to something extramusical to get the point across.

All you have is a bunch of chords. The listener will only percieve them as "ironic" or "romantic" if you actually tell them "look at how romantic and ironic this is!"

I know that they are a bunch of chords but this is the main concept that came to me first and I don't won't to write something extramusical.How do you think romance and irony can represented?I mean should I consentrate more on harmony on orchestration and in which way???

I forgot that the piece is for a love-scene (short-film) but the director wants the music to be romantic of course with some ironic sparks...

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