Computer generated music

I don't know what you guys think about computer generated music. What happens is that you input an algorithm and have the computer generate the music for you. Most of the time it comes out sounding like complete monkey crap. However I'm curious if any of you have ever heard a computer-generated piece that actually sounded good? If so I'd like to hear it :)

Well I know many "computer generated music" that sounds good, (including mine ) but made by input algorithms and let the pc generate all, no, those are most of the times (like you said) monkey crap , so I think we have to separate the fact of creating music with a computer and the method you use in that computer.

(sorry but I've always had this doubt: is "crap" cursing or just slang ?)

I create music with a pc but I use it like a virtual musician that plays instead me, check this weird elec. piece and this common elec. piece

I created both without using intentional mathematics inputs.

EDIT:

Hey, I recall ....

Stockhausen - Oktophonie

I know only 1 minute of that piece but is fabulous (does anyone know where can I listen it complete ?) I don't know exactly how stockhause made that piece but I don't think very much algorithms where implied, ... well that's what I think.

I don't know what you guys think about computer generated music. What happens is that you input an algorithm and have the computer generate the music for you. Most of the time it comes out sounding like complete monkey crap. However I'm curious if any of you have ever heard a computer-generated piece that actually sounded good? If so I'd like to hear it :)

I've written one piece with sections of computer generated music that I don't think sounds too bad. How strict are you speaking? For example, one could use Max/MSP to run pre-recorded acoustic material through an algorithm that causes the sounds to be cut up and rearranged in a somewhat random way. I've heard a few compositions like this by student composers that I enjoyed. Andrew Stewart Allen does some clever stuff with Max/MSP.

Let me share with you this piece:

Karlheinz Stockhausen - Oktophonie (excerpt)

All music made according to algorithms is monkey crap, especially Bach.

I mean, I've NEVER done this before... (See here: http://forum.youngcomposers.com/t22573/nanda-vishnu/)

Music is music. Monkey crap is poop. If we're going to analogize, let's at least keep it in the ballpark, right? :)

Algorithmic music is actually a pretty interesting concept. At its current state though, I think it's merely a tool for composers to formulate ideas by capturing sound in an algorithmic sequence and work with it from that point. In this way, it's a tool in much the same way as a rock was a tool to cavemen until they tied it to a stick to make it a hammer. That's my view of the algorithmic models out there sequencing sound.

It's sound virtualization. It creates sound in a space for you to then take all or part of it from that sequence and work with it. I'm sure that if the technology progresses further, the algorithms and some variables will be able to virtualize entire sonorities of complex harmonic languages and linear models that will further enhance the creative process. But until then, I guess I'm stuck with my neanderthalic sketches, my musical ear, and my brain for guidance through my creative process. So be it. I'm fine with that, too.

What about algorithmic music that isn't electronic in nature? Serialism, tonality, common chord progressions, all provide an algorithm.

Though, I wouldn't call it a tool -- but that's just semantics.

What about algorithmic music that isn't electronic in nature? Serialism, tonality, common chord progressions, all provide an algorithm.

Though, I wouldn't call it a tool -- but that's just semantics.

An algorithmic piece can be represented by a list of parameters (to be put into the algorithm in question). Tonal music may have predictable forumlae but it isn't algorithmic.