re5 Posted May 21, 2006 Posted May 21, 2006 Hi all, im a beginner, anyway i can compose pretty good music, i have some harmonics basics and stuff, but my problem is that my music is always so ordinary, so same, so following the rules, u know...im not crazy enough and i need to spice it a lil bit.... Any advice? Thanx to all
Calehay Posted May 21, 2006 Posted May 21, 2006 If you feel that your music is too ordinary, why not try something a little different. Try writing something entirely in an odd meter, or something atonal. Even if you don't end up writing in that style, it will invariably trickle down to the way you normally write.
Odenkraft Posted May 22, 2006 Posted May 22, 2006 Hi again! Found a nice anime/manga music site. http://www.geocities.com/anime_unloved/ Yea and here is a real crazy song I found on the site - even the title is crazy :D http://www.geocities.com/anime_unloved/The...dAdolesence.mid
Ravels Radical Rivalry Posted May 22, 2006 Posted May 22, 2006 If you want all the best vgmusic of all time you need look no further than Chrono Trigger. It is without a doubt the greatest, period. I don't know why Odenkraft didn't use one of these as an example (maybe he has never heard?). http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...nes/cttitle.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...es/ctblkomn.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...snes/ctboss.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...snes/ctfrog.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...nes/guardia.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/snes/lavos.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...snes/Lavos2.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...snes/Magus1.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...es/ctundsea.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...es/ctschal1.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...idden_Truth.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...es/cttyrano.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...es/ctcorrid.mid
Odenkraft Posted May 22, 2006 Posted May 22, 2006 If you want all the best vgmusic of all time you need look no further than Chrono Trigger. It is without a doubt the greatest, period. I don't know why Okendraft didn't use one of these as an example (maybe he has never heard?). Well I recall re5 saying: "im not crazy enough and i need to spice it a lil bit" (Okey, I copied it). :D Chrono Trigger is a
re5 Posted May 22, 2006 Author Posted May 22, 2006 first of all, thanks all for replying, but i dont think i expressed myself the right way-by the word "crazy" i didnt mean such crazy as video games music is :D, i just wanted to say that my music is too ordinary and i need to spice it somehow... I think Calehay gets what i mean... one more time, thanks all of u anyway, i might try all of that...
peter_traj Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 you need to learn how music works.that way you will be in a good position to identify just why what you are writing sounds boring. music is about a juxtaposition of consonace and dissonance at the very core and an artistical proportioning of the two within a thematic framework is what makes music alive and interesting. you should find a compositon teacher at your local conservitore and study the mechanics of musical motion,then everything will make sense. nothing in music will be a mystery any more.you will understand why one particular composition sounds boring and the other exiting,and when you can identify that you are on the way to writing great music.
montpellier Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 Just an opinion but it might be worth broadening your listening. You don't say what styles you like - I wouldn't suggest listening to an opposite style if there were such a thing - maybe have the radio on tuned to a "classical" station or one where you get lots of variety. If you like a particular genre, listen out for the composer/work then explore her/him via your local library. Once you get a broader musical outlook, start trying to find out how the composers got the effects they did. The UK has Radio 3 - sometimes it's dross, more usually it isn't and it plays everything but chart music. It's better than "Classical FM" that plays just classical hits and pre-recorded stuff so you never get to hear new work.
M_is_D Posted May 27, 2006 Posted May 27, 2006 If you want all the best vgmusic of all time you need look no further than Chrono Trigger. It is without a doubt the greatest, period. I don't know why Odenkraft didn't use one of these as an example (maybe he has never heard?). http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...nes/cttitle.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...es/ctblkomn.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...snes/ctboss.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...snes/ctfrog.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...nes/guardia.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/nintendo/snes/lavos.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...snes/Lavos2.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...snes/Magus1.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...es/ctundsea.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...es/ctschal1.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...idden_Truth.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...es/cttyrano.mid http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/ninte...es/ctcorrid.mid Uh???? What the Hell? Ever heard of Final Fantasy? The Legend of Zelda?
ILikeChords Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 I'm on the same boat, I think. Can't grow out of those M's, m's, M7's and m7's Are there any good sites or books that teach about more advanced chords and chord progressions?
Ravels Radical Rivalry Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Uh???? What the Hell? Ever heard of Final Fantasy? The Legend of Zelda? Yes I have and I love them too. You need to find Okendrafts thread called Game Music Dedicated Thread. You will see the kinda stuff we are posting there. However, I still think that Chrono Trigger is on top. It is my favorite of all but there are some that I think are tied in quality. I do think I am older than you and have had more experience playing those older classical SNES games. I would know the music back then much better than you would.
bsbray Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Just keep listening to and writing music. I bet you'll eventually grow out of it on your own. Going out of your way to sound new just doesn't seem like it would result in anything sincere.
Fingernail Posted May 28, 2006 Posted May 28, 2006 Unfortunately the best video game music is that written by Lennie Moore for Outcast. Period. If you haven't heard it (or better, played the game with it), you are living in ignorance!
Fingernail Posted May 29, 2006 Posted May 29, 2006 I mean that it is unfortunate that anyone who claims "Legend of Japanophile this" or "Super Adventure of my Childhood Memory that" has the best music is incorrect!
Odenkraft Posted May 30, 2006 Posted May 30, 2006 I mean that it is unfortunate that anyone who claims "Legend of Japanophile this" or "Super Adventure of my Childhood Memory that" has the best music is incorrect! You
Dirk Gently Posted June 1, 2006 Posted June 1, 2006 My favorite Zelda music would have to be from OoT, though :). My first composition was a variation on the Song of Storms (or Windmill song), actually. LttP is definitely second best, though, perhaps followed by Zelda II....that craz, odd Zelda game :(.. anyway, if you play piano, just experiment with different chord progressions and don't be afraid to try new things! I learned everything I know (ok, not much, but a decent bit) about modulation and chord progressions by simply improvising...now I can pretty much get from any one key to another, if I wish...though I usually stay away from keys like c sharp minor and a flat minor ;). C major to F minor, then back and forth, is usually pretty nice, and if you use C7 you can go to F minor... Oh, and it'd be helpful to know three chords that are can be used with any key. I'm not sure what exactly they're called, but they're very useful. One is C, D sharp, F sharp, and A. One half step more on each note leads to the next chord: C sharp, E, G, A sharp. Another half step on each notes leads to: D, F, G sharp, B. WIth another half step, you're back to the original chord but on a different inversion! A good chord progression using these chords would be C major, then the first chord I mentioned, C major again, G seventh, and then back to C major again....If you go to the next two chords that I mentioned after the first one ( C, D sharp, F sharp, and A) you can then go to G7 and sucessfully turn to C minor :). Or, you could use the first chord ( C, D sharp, F sharp, and A) and then add a B, and you know have a B7 chord! Perfect for an E minor, since you've already had the e and g in your C major scale...
Lord Sorasen Posted June 1, 2006 Posted June 1, 2006 Everyone's getting alarmingly off topic. Cant say I have your problem. We're opposites, really, so... Its always a bit of help to try to be weird, even if it doesn't work out. You know, stick unusual instruments everywhere and add unnatural chords and stuff. Soon enough you'll find your own style, or so I've heard.
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