J. Lee Graham Posted June 11, 2010 Posted June 11, 2010 Check this out: Bow Hold Buddies at Things4Strings.com I wasn't sure of this at first, but the more I think of it, the more I remember how difficult I found accomplishing a correct bow holding technique as a student; it was one of the most challenging aspects of playing early on, and it's very easy to develop bad habits with it. I wonder if this invention wouldn't be an excellent way to train students - and even remind more advanced players from time to time - of proper bow-holding technique. Purists might consider this a "crutch" - such as applying strips of coloured tape on the fingerboard to serve as visual "frets" for students might be - yet somehow I like this idea. What do you think? Are you in favour of or against such things? What might be the advantages/disadvantages of it? Quote
ruthbrons Posted August 27, 2010 Posted August 27, 2010 You will find Results regarding the patented Things 4 Strings® bow hold accessories for beginning violin, viola and cello students from hundreds of private studio and classroom teachers, method book authors/editors, national and international string pedagogy leaders, young and adult students, and parents here. Quote
SYS65 Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 Looks very comfortable, but my old teacher wouldn't agree on the use of that I would have to try it myself to know, but right now I don't see any reason for not to use it Quote
ruthbrons Posted August 28, 2010 Posted August 28, 2010 SYS65: This accessory is for beginners, to help speed them on their way, not seasoned players like yourself. :) Quote
CheeseLord Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Hehe...I've been playing for 6 years, yet still my teacher has to tell me I'm holding the bow wrong... ;) I'm all in favour of this, it's comfortable and would really help out - and in fact, I don't see why people would be fussed about visual frets (I certainly had them when I started off!!) TBH though, I find posture wayyy harder (bad habit's I'm afraid), is there anything to help with that?? :rolleyes: Quote
ruthbrons Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Just as I learned that learning the bow hold quickly and effectively can be accomplished with an accessory, I have also come to view the violin hold -- which is what I am thinking you are meaning by "posture" -- as largely an equipment issue. Here is an excellent site to learn about the importance and function and options of chin rests: http://www.chinrests.com and here is my favorite shoulder rest for the majority of my students: http://www.cicaviolin.com/shres0for473.html Best Wishes, Ruth Brons Inventor of Things 4 Stringsinstant bow hold accessories www.things4strings.com Quote
jawoodruff Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 I'm not sure I like the idea really. I mean, for some students this could result in the reliance on that product instead. Neat idea though. My teacher -many years ago- would make exercises for us to learn how to hold the box correctly. I can't remember any of them though - it's been that long ago. :mellow: Quote
SYS65 Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 for students ? ... but let's say a student has problems with the bow and he start using that thing, when he will stop using it ? and is he going to have the same problems than before ? I've been watching the pictures over and over, and I think a student (or even a pro) get "used" to that and then for some reason has to play without it, will have less control than ever... (well that's the impression I got while seeing the pics) Quote
CheeseLord Posted August 29, 2010 Posted August 29, 2010 Hmmm...I think the key to the trick of these bow-aids is to use them for a extremely short period of time, say no more than one year. But as for the shoulder rest, I think it's just getting out of bad habits - I started off (like most violinists) with a pair of rubber bands and a washing sponge for a shoulder rest, which resulted in me having to semi crouch over to keep hold. Now I don't have to do that, but after 4 years of going so, I can't seem to kick the problem and not still move my head down :o Any of you experienced any problems like that before?? Quote
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