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What do you all think about cadenzas in styles other than the style of the original piece? I've seen people on here say "no way" and talk about how its no good for the piece, however it was customary for a cadenza to be played in the "current" style. So in the Romantic period, you would have a Romantic style cadenza to accompany a Mozart concerto.

What about cadenzas being improvised?

Mozart Cadenza in Folk Style:

Schnittke Cadenza for Beethoven's Violin Concerto:

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Fixed dem linx.

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I would waste too much time worrying about what's "wrong" or "right". More, focus on what you think best fits the piece, your interpretation and style.

Edit: Also, your links are back to front :P

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In the Mozart cadenza, when the solist walked away I was afraid he was going to tap-dance. luckily he didn't do that :D

I think there is a difference between Schnittke's and the Folk cadenza. The first is like a collage in which the end-result is more than the sum of its parts.

The folky one on the other hand felt more like a way to bring classical music to the masses. A popular way to introduce old music to a new audience. I rather dislike this, although I do not consider myself an elitist.

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I would waste too much time worrying about what's "wrong" or "right". More, focus on what you think best fits the piece, your interpretation and style.

Edit: Also, your links are back to front :P

This seems like the best for me. People are often very uptight about playing in a period style, which is a nice novelty, but you can never go back in time, no matter how accurate you try to make the recreation, it still is just a simulacrum. I think it's best to make music for our time, not strive to fulfill a nostalgic fantasy.

Of course having the occasional period cadenza is fine, because it can enjoyable to interface with the past in this way. I just think it's unhealthy, and insincere to cultivate a backwards-looking culture.

And jrcramer, no one considers themselves an elitist.

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Is this really a discussion? I mean, unless the composer wrote a cadenza (as Mozart did quite a few times), it really shouldn't be a concern whether the performer keeps within style or not.

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Is this really a discussion? I mean, unless the composer wrote a cadenza (as Mozart did quite a few times), it really shouldn't be a concern whether the performer keeps within style or not.

Well, how about the Beetoven Violin Concerto, for example. There is no cadenza (hence the Schnittke I posted) for the work, however the piano arrangement features a cadenza. Should the piano cadenza be transcribed and played for violin? Should the Heifitz or Schnittke cadenzas (for example) be used?

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