Mind Control and Pre-experience??

Forum please bear with me and keep an open mind throughout this whole thread.

Is it possible for me to have my girlfriend experience an entire "first date", break-up, and reunion through music?

Can I compose music with the ultimate goal that if she listens to all of them, she would never want to leave me?

I am really interested in testing this theory out, and if she breaks up with me for it, I don't mind.

The way I think it could work, is by composing music that is general to a specific thing, because we all know that music can be inferred differently by everyone, but, what if I were to name the soundtrack?

Let me guide you through my soundtracks, and this is just a crude example, but if worked on, it can be made perfect.

Track 1: Finding Love

Track 2: Hopeless Without You

Track 3: Brought Together

Track 4: Union

Track 5: I'll be back soon

Track 6: Separated

Track 7: Fear

Track 8: Please Forgive Me

Track 9: Accepted

Track 10: Reunited

Now, if you are confused, do you notice what this is about?

Track 1: Finding Love; this soundtrack is a memory of when we first found each other and fell in love

Track 2: Hopeless Without You: We are together, but when we are alone, at our own homes, we feel empty and hopeless without each other

Track 3: Brought Together; a soundtrack that has a happy tune to it. gives her the experience of seeing each other again.

Track 4: Union; In this soundtrack, she hears a passionate/romantic music. Union essentially registers as Sex

Track 5: I'll Be Back Soon; Here, we play a nervousy, anxious theme. This is where she leaves the house to go out, but unfortunately to cheat

Track 6: Separated; A sad theme. I broke up withher because she cheated on me

Track 7: Fear; A music designed to make her feel hopeless, and induce fear. Scared of being alone.

Track 8: Please Forgive Me; A piece orchestrated to give her hope

Track 9: Accepted; Another sad type of theme, with some happy parts

Track 10: Reunion; Another passionate one. We get together, and sex strengthens the union

Just like art, music can be tricky. What works for art in the 15th century, cant work in the 21st century. People will infer things differently. We can analyze the musical piece to determine how we can apply it for a certain scene. Obviously a terrifying or speedy song will not be able to match a moment where peace and calm is needed.

However, name the soundtrack and you are already guiding them to a certain mind state and thinking pattern. What I didn't do was make the soundtracks so real and obvious, instead, I made them more general and hidden, so she could not notice, and the way the soundtrack titles are ordered, it would subconsciously register in her mind as us two, especially when there is a picture of a man and a woman(see below), and Finding Love as the name of the first track, guiding her to where I want.

My goal is, to have her pre-experience me breaking up with her, having her experience fear and hopelessness after the break-up, and then getting back together with her again. I might actually change track 9 to rejected and remove track 10.

Of course this is a bit crude, but it is elementary and working further on this, I believe it is very much possible to subliminally program her to not have the guts to do anything wrong with me. We want her to fear and regret cheating. The problem is not composing music, because that comes easy to me, the problem is to get it right. She also has to be able to listen to the complete CD without distraction, best effects are if she is in her car driving somewhere far. We also need her conditioned to accept pure music, because most people these days mock music by itself, especially music that is complex, rather than a few beats with some bad lyrics.

But forum, we also need a cd cover, a CD Name, and a cover art.

I know which art to add as the cover. It will be a picture or painting of a girl hugging a guy, with evidence she has cried and suffered, with her eyes closed, appearing as if she is glad to be back. You know what, here is an image I found, also shaped like a heart.

So forum , with the cover art out of the way, what would you name this CD? We can be comfortable knowing that she can never suspect anything. And if you had to change parts of this CD or edit some soundtracks to make it better, how would you do it?

...Yup, this sounds healthy.

Just to clarify here...you want to to subjugate your girlfriend via an album of magical mind-control music that will compel her to stay with you forevermore by assaulting her with the unearned guilt of a transgression she has not actually committed in what I assume you feel is a subtle means of coercing her into being an obedient prisoner in a union you're not even serious about?

I mean disregarding for a moment the horrid misogyny at play here, I'm going to question why you would go through all this effort — you state early on in your wall of text that if she breaks up with you for this little experiment then you don't care...so then this whole venture is nothing but a power trip...perpetrated against a person you ostensibly care for?

Respectfully, I don't think "we" need cover art, a title, or anything to do with this CD. I think you may want to examine your idea of a healthy relationship though.

This is not a good way to emerge from depression.

...Yup, this sounds healthy.

Just to clarify here...you want to to subjugate your girlfriend via an album of magical mind-control music that will compel her to stay with you forevermore by assaulting her with the unearned guilt of a transgression she has not actually committed in what I assume you feel is a subtle means of coercing her into being an obedient prisoner in a union you're not even serious about?

I mean disregarding for a moment the horrid misogyny at play here, I'm going to question why you would go through all this effort — you state early on in your wall of text that if she breaks up with you for this little experiment then you don't care...so then this whole venture is nothing but a power trip...perpetrated against a person you ostensibly care for?

Respectfully, I don't think "we" need cover art, a title, or anything to do with this CD. I think you may want to examine your idea of a healthy relationship though.

This is not a good way to emerge from depression.

Thank you for your input. I don't hate women as you said. I believe the end result is superior than a woman. The end result is my discovery of trickery. I guess I care enough to stop her from hurting herself before it happens? What is more important here, a woman, or music? Clearly it's the music. It's not like I am hurting her. I came here explaining techniques that can be used to manipulate thought patterns. Why the hate Marius? This can become a theory(if it hasn't already been discovered years ago).

BTW Marius, I listened to your album, I liked Restless a lot. You did a good job on that one. But your whole album is a bit amateur to me, nevertheless, Restless was good.

I forgot to mention that I wont be telling her that I am going to have her listen to the CD for that reason. The point is to go along as if nothing has happened. I can only confirm if it worked by her conscience afterwords.

The truth is, this is probably just 10% of everything. It is still so rudimentary, but I believe it can work.

At this point, it is just a theory. I shouldn't be receiving any hate at all. What is it that bothered you Marius? My supposed misogyny? The fact that I want to "subjugate" my girlfriend? Or the other 10 excuses you found to hate what I want to do? Or did I just word everything wrong, and rush the whole thing and made it undesirable?

Forget the negative aspects this time, instead, help me with this theory. Can you do that? Can you give some of your advice?

Name it something subtle like "Ditch Mercurious and go out with Ian."

Thank you for your input. I don't hate women as you said. I believe the end result is superior than a woman. The end result is my discovery of trickery. I guess I care enough to stop her from hurting herself before it happens? What is more important here, a woman, or music? Clearly it's the music. It's not like I am hurting her. I came here explaining techniques that can be used to manipulate thought patterns. Why the hate Marius? This can become a theory(if it hasn't already been discovered years ago).

BTW Marius, I listened to your album, I liked Restless a lot. You did a good job on that one. But your whole album is a bit amateur to me, nevertheless, Restless was good.

I forgot to mention that I wont be telling her that I am going to have her listen to the CD for that reason. The point is to go along as if nothing has happened. I can only confirm if it worked by her conscience afterwords.

The truth is, this is probably just 10% of everything. It is still so rudimentary, but I believe it can work.

At this point, it is just a theory. I shouldn't be receiving any hate at all. What is it that bothered you Marius? My supposed misogyny? The fact that I want to "subjugate" my girlfriend? Or the other 10 excuses you found to hate what I want to do? Or did I just word everything wrong, and rush the whole thing and made it undesirable?

Forget the negative aspects this time, instead, help me with this theory. Can you do that? Can you give some of your advice?

There is no hate, this is the internet. Don't give yourself too much credit. I simply have some strong views on the value and treatment of others that appear to come into conflict with yours.

The theory itself I have no particular issue with, though I doubt that you can achieve any sort of consistent response to the music that falls in line with your intent. Tailoring specifically to her and in combination with the power of suggestion attached to the titles of the tracks may provoke the effects you're seeking, but it may just as easily be interpreted as a pleasant album of music with an odd premise that doesn't actually make a lasting impact on her. You'll have to see.

In some ways I suppose I do for a living what this experiment is attempting to do; construct music that tells stories, manipulates feelings, and provokes specific effects in an audience. That being said, my work is apparently amateurish so I'm sure I have nothing in the way of advice to offer that would be helpful to you. Thank you for taking the time to listen to my music though, in any event!

I have to side with Marius on this.

I also want to add something to the discussion as well....

I think it's a far cry to say that every composer intentionally does what you are trying to do her. Sure, we all write music with the intent of leaving a mark on our audiences BUT to utilize that in a manner as you are doing here seems to be highly unethical. I mean, as it stands now, a person can listen to one of my works and receive different things from it each and every time - that's why music is highly abstract in nature. To construct my music to purposefully bring an Ex back into my arms, in my opinion, cheapens that music itself. Just my two cents - I won't go into much detail from this oversimplified stance. I hope you understand.

Not only unethical -- impossible :blink: Yes, loud music with a beat can increase blood pressure and even make people get more aggressive (like at political rally when they want to get people riled up for their cause). Soft music can relax. Etc. Heck, I even believe that you can tell stories with music -- even being more specific while doing so than some may believe.

But mind control? Really? That's just ... not going to happen. Music doesn't control people. Period.

If you want to make that album, that's great and all, but don't expect your girlfriend to get back with you as a result unless you have lyrics with your song that really sweep her off her feet or something. (Or maybe just dedicate beautiful music to her?) Not to mention the fact that she cheated on you (and then you broke up with her as a result), sooooo ... her feelings for you are probably only superficial and lustful, not anything more :( Why do you want to get her back anyway?

Not only unethical -- impossible :blink: Yes, loud music with a beat can increase blood pressure and even make people get more aggressive (like at political rally when they want to get people riled up for their cause). Soft music can relax. Etc. Heck, I even believe that you can tell stories with music -- even being more specific while doing so than some may believe.

But mind control? Really? That's just ... not going to happen. Music doesn't control people. Period.

If you want to make that album, that's great and all, but don't expect your girlfriend to get back with you as a result unless you have lyrics with your song that really sweep her off her feet or something. (Or maybe just dedicate beautiful music to her?) Not to mention the fact that she cheated on you (and then you broke up with her as a result), sooooo ... her feelings for you are probably only superficial and lustful, not anything more :( Why do you want to get her back anyway?

About music telling stories, that is completely true. Music does influence however, and thus, it can lead to Mind control.

I've stated before that you should not worry about the woman, she is just a woman.

Beautiful music? The only thing she could handle was a simple, calming, guitar solo.

The story thing, I am working on it. I've been listening and self studying all the complex and amazing musical pieces I could find. I believe I have collected enough to begin writing these "stories".

But without naming it, that story can be generalized into anything. That's what I mean when I say naming it is what does most of the brainwashing work.

Usually, if I want to entice a woman, I would write some sweet melodies, or some sexy ones. Who doesn't love melodies?

What the.

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Yeah go for it man. It's totally okay that's you're abusing her trust and using her as an unwilling guinea pig in an experiment basically with the goal of brainwashing her. For sex probably. What's the worst that could happen. A woman gets hurt? Like a woman's feelings even matter.

Try you idea with her. I am not worried really. I'm sure this will don't work.

What is more important here, a woman, or music? Clearly it's the music

Hoookay. I didn't see this.

The gems of humanity (science, spirituality, art, etc.) are truly important to all humankind. But when they become more important than the people themselves, we have a major problem.

Hoookay. I didn't see this.

The gems of humanity (science, spirituality, art, etc.) are truly important to all humankind. But when they become more important than the people themselves, we have a major problem.

Maybe this is why you people will always remain amateur no matter how hard you try to be good. I knew I'd get negative responses like this. You people don't want this to work.

I just came here to have you folks agree with me, and perhaps throw in some input. I know this will easily work. Quite obviously you experts were oblivious to the fact that my post contained only perhaps 10% of the complete system to get her mind controlled.

She will be much happier in the long run this way.

I know all the tools, rules, and systems to use so that I may get this to work exactly the way I want it, with the exact outcome.

I hope you all have a wonderful day while I go to the next step, the next level of music.

Maybe this is why you people will always remain amateur no matter how hard you try to be good.

You people?

Okay, I get it, you're a troll. No one is this elitist and arrogant on accident.

Good luck with your exploits. Hopefully you won't run into any psychology board of ethics members. But I do honestly hope this particular project fails miserably, you and your S.O. will definitely be happier if they do. Manipulation rarely results in a healthy relationship.

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Wow. You should be grateful that everyone is handling this so well. Because although there is some humor to be found in this (because it's simply crazy), I think it's a little scary how little you value your girlfriend, not even as your girlfriend but simply as a person.

This has got to be the weirdest thread I've ever seen.

troll is a troll.....

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Wow. You should be grateful that everyone is handling this so well. Because although there is some humor to be found in this (because it's simply crazy), I think it's a little scary how little you value your girlfriend, not even as your girlfriend but simply as a person.

This has got to be the weirdest thread I've ever seen.

I can't piece together still, why everyone is so worried about my girlfriend? Are you guys like trying to put yourselves in my place? Get your own girlfriend and treat her so nicely that she leaves you.

Girls do not like nice guys, and get out of my shoes please. Don't worry about my girlfriend. This is a music forum, not a relationship forum, and yet all of you still are bashing my idea because I am trying to use it on my girl?

Seriously man, get a grip somewhere.

I can't piece together still, why everyone is so worried about my girlfriend? Are you guys like trying to put yourselves in my place? Get your own girlfriend and treat her so nicely that she leaves you.

Girls do not like nice guys, and get out of my shoes please. Don't worry about my girlfriend. This is a music forum, not a relationship forum, and yet all of you still are bashing my idea because I am trying to use it on my girl?

Seriously man, get a grip somewhere.

The problem isn't your girlfriend, Mercurioustroll. The problem is your lack of respect for your art. That you would even stoop so low to use your music (which mind you no one here has heard - so we really don't even know if your good or suck) to make her do something against her will. That's a horrible thing really. It speaks volumes of you.

Mind you, I think it's quite clear though - your only posting this to troll.. and nothing more.

In my experiencie with psychological things (I studied a bit of them in preparatory), we can stay calmed. This guy has a very bad concevied plan to adquieve "mind control" Perhaps the only bad thing this guy will cause in the girl will be wasting her time :)

About music telling stories, that is completely true. Music does influence however, and thus, it can lead to Mind control.

I've stated before that you should not worry about the woman, she is just a woman.

Beautiful music? The only thing she could handle was a simple, calming, guitar solo.

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Usually, if I want to entice a woman, I would write some sweet melodies, or some sexy ones. Who doesn't love melodies?

Speaking AS a woman, I find this to be incredibly offensive, and especially what is stated above. Imagine the tables turned- you cheat on her, she breaks up with you, then wants to control your mind through music so you fall back in love with HER again. Would you not feel used and un-valued? I would find it incredibly sweet if this album you are trying to make had sweet lyrics, a piano sonata dedicated to me, or something similar. But the use of music as mind control to get my feelings back? It doesn't show that you love her- it shows that you view her as an object.

My two cents.

Speaking AS a woman, I find this to be incredibly offensive, and especially what is stated above. Imagine the tables turned- you cheat on her, she breaks up with you, then wants to control your mind through music so you fall back in love with HER again. Would you not feel used and un-valued? I would find it incredibly sweet if this album you are trying to make had sweet lyrics, a piano sonata dedicated to me, or something similar. But the use of music as mind control to get my feelings back? It doesn't show that you love her- it shows that you view her as an object.

My two cents.

Oh great another person who missed the thread.

Who said I'm trying to get her back? When did she leave? Since everyone is so worried about someone else's girlfriend, the reason I am not being nice to her is so that she doesn't eventually leave me. The girl I'm with isn't the kind that likes to much niceness anyway, it has to be moderate, and lately, things are not working out because she is getting tired. There is nothing I can do anymore. I don't have the desire or energy to find someone else anymore, so I'd rather use this method which I am working on on her.

Thanks for the person reminding me that music can be listened to like a story. You've opened my imagination, and it's another step.

Maybe this is why you people will always remain amateur no matter how hard you try to be good. I knew I'd get negative responses like this. You people don't want this to work.

I just came here to have you folks agree with me, and perhaps throw in some input. I know this will easily work. Quite obviously you experts were oblivious to the fact that my post contained only perhaps 10% of the complete system to get her mind controlled.

She will be much happier in the long run this way.

I know all the tools, rules, and systems to use so that I may get this to work exactly the way I want it, with the exact outcome.

I hope you all have a wonderful day while I go to the next step, the next level of music.

So what parts of the brain are you looking to stimulate?

Can't answer that? Then you don't even have the first inkling of what you're talking about.

What do you have in the first post? A list of broad-strokes ideas and an album cover ripped from Final Fantasy? You don't have 10%, you don't have 1%. I wonder if you're even taken a step.

Oh great another person who missed the thread.

It's not us who missed the thread. You're saying that what could be called music can possibly affect the human mind enough to compel it to do something. That in and of itself is fine, though highly dubious; however, like all things, presentation is key. You have shown through your comments about the subject of your experimentation that this is a selfish act, and not a scientific one. It could be an artistic act, though a very brutal and rather unacceptable form of it.

I'd like to say start over again, but the cat's out of the bag. Get a life.

Also, you'll fail. Mind control does not exist.

Guy. You will fail miserably. Ericksson will probably laugh if he can read this thread.

To OP ... simply wear your tinfoil hat and chant "cuckoo cuckoo cuckoo duckoo" 6000 times while you are looking at the moon in a mirror... and it will work (whatever it is you are going on about will work) :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: