A central Youtube channel for independent composers.

Hello YC'ers,

Recently I came up with the idea to create a Youtube-channel to post video's of compositions of independent composers on. The idea is that there will be much more exposure for the single composers, since all the pieces are concentrated on one channel. Another possibility is that more video's on a channel might mean more subscribers and maybe this will eventually lead to a Youtube-partnership.

I'm making this thread to hear what you think of this idea. And if you would be interested to postyour video's on the channel. One thing I'm trying to figure out is when I upload a video of one composer to the channel he/she cannot upload that video to their own channel anymore, so that's probebly a con for the composer. Although I did manage to duohle upload a video of mine I think this will be problematic in the long run.

Here is the link to the channel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/IndieComposers

I will be updating this post as I go along, but I'm interested inw hat your reactions to such an idea are?

Gijs

This would be a neat idea. It would be cool if the partnership results in some pieces getting played by that lso youtube orchestra. I dunno just an idea to get music pieces under real instruments rather than on the computer.

This would be a neat idea. It would be cool if the partnership results in some pieces getting played by that lso youtube orchestra. I dunno just an idea to get music pieces under real instruments rather than on the computer.

I agree! This is a wonderful idea to get everyone's stuff out there; it'll be hard to miss any piece and hopefully it will create a great group! :D

We could call it YCyoutube :P

I agree! This is a wonderful idea to get everyone's stuff out there; it'll be hard to miss any piece and hopefully it will create a great group! :D

We could call it YCyoutube :P

I called the group YoungComposersTube.

I'm stiil not realy sure how to go form here on out. I would upload my own video's, but I think it's kind of a shame to ditch my own channel. Even if I don't have much subscribers.

If I want this channel to be a bit succesfull it needs to have uploads on it, but how is going to spent time making a video and then upload it to some (at this point) random channel? If the channel would be bigger it might be easier, but at the moment I have no clue haw to start it up..

How are you planning to use other people's videos?

How are you planning to use other people's videos?

I already do: http://www.youtube.c...be?feature=mhee

I either download them from their youtube channel and upload them with their permission. Or I upload video's I have made for composers who sent me their pieces and pdf's with the scores. Or I upload complete pieces that are being sent to me. Interested?

I'm in! My youtube name is "DreamMusicbyNebal" for safety reasons, I gave myself a pseudonym, my name on Youtube is "Neal Owens" (my real name is very very very unique, which is why I changed it) I think you can tell my real name is Nebal, but I don't care, as long as people don't know my last name...yet. So, would you mind telling me any other info I need to know to join your channel?

I'm in! My youtube name is "DreamMusicbyNebal" for safety reasons, I gave myself a pseudonym, my name on Youtube is "Neal Owens" (my real name is very very very unique, which is why I changed it) I think you can tell my real name is Nebal, but I don't care, as long as people don't know my last name...yet. So, would you mind telling me any other info I need to know to join your channel?

You can use any name you want on the channel. I will upload your music, but I do need a video to go with it. It doens't have to be much, but a bit more than one picture. And it has to be your own stuff. So maybe you can add a series of photos you took of a nice scenery or a trip somewhere you went on? Maybe you live nearby a nice landscape (or in) and you can film or make photo's of it? I don't know. You can do what ever you like. Just make sure you own the material.

If you have no clue sent me a PM and we can look from there.

Hello Sir!

I am an aspiring composer and DJ. i make my own remixes, and also do compose music and lyrics in hindi.

Grateful if you could guide me as to how to proceed for uploading the audio files on your channel?

Hello Sir!

I am an aspiring composer and DJ. i make my own remixes, and also do compose music and lyrics in hindi.

Grateful if you could guide me as to how to proceed for uploading the audio files on your channel?

Do you have a personal youtube-channel? If not, you can sent your mp3's (and sheets if available) to youngcomposerstube@hotmail.com

Just a question... Since this YC appears to be a rather diverse, eclectic group, what kind of our music would this channel focus on? I am not really sure if the guys who compose rock, pop or videogame music will be really comfortable with their music appearing side by side with microtonalists and dodecaphonists. But I may be mistaken... Any thoughts?

You're mistaken. Rock musicians secretly wish their music was taken as seriously as serialists. hahaha.

I mean, to be honest, we're ALL composers in the end. I spend as much time crafting my rock music as I do my post-minimalist orchestral works. So, I mean, there is an even plane in terms of ideological differences. Even though the styles are vastly different, one can compose extremely complex rock music (or, go a step further: look at metal music. Some of that stuff is in different time signatures and even different meter markings. These are SERIOUS musicians).

Don't get me wrong - I did never say they are not SERIOUS musicians. Quite often the metal groups are thanking J.S. Bach, Wagner or Mahler in their CDs. (Not that I like metal very much - but I actually take it more seriously than serialism :phones: ...). When in high school, my best friends were the metal guys - and I actually taught some of them about reading notes and tablatures, so that they could perform their favorite songs. A few of them did start composing as well.

What I mean is that the rockers have an absolutely different approach. And, of course, a different goal. What I am asking is if it would be wise to put all of us in the same basket (lest my Tchaikovskian-Mahlerian works bore the hell out of the people and cause them to miss the works they'd really enjoy :thumbsup: ...)

Sure, I think it's fine. If they want to tag their pieces in the style, they can. let's people see the filter. haha.

Agreed. This isn't really about output as much as it is a community representation.

Don't get me wrong - I did never say they are not SERIOUS musicians. Quite often the metal groups are thanking J.S. Bach, Wagner or Mahler in their CDs. (Not that I like metal very much - but I actually take it more seriously than serialism :phones: ...). When in high school, my best friends were the metal guys - and I actually taught some of them about reading notes and tablatures, so that they could perform their favorite songs. A few of them did start composing as well.

What I mean is that the rockers have an absolutely different approach. And, of course, a different goal. What I am asking is if it would be wise to put all of us in the same basket (lest my Tchaikovskian-Mahlerian works bore the hell out of the people and cause them to miss the works they'd really enjoy :thumbsup: ...)

The channel has been up and running for a couple of months now and there are indeed a lot of different styles on it. I do understand your concern and I'm not sure how to deal with it. I want the channel to be centered around 'classical music'. But that term is so broad it can be very difficult to draw the line. I write music in a pop-like way. I try to put more thought in the other voices, but still...

What it comes down to is: I don't know. I don't want the channel to feauture all kinds of singer-songwriters, but on the other hand I did upload one that I liked, so I'm not really consice there.

I quess I upload what I like and what people ask me to upload.

Maybe some of you have a idea? What should the channle feuture in the near future. What should I and shouldn't I upload?

lol Austenite you're over thinking it....

Well, Phil... Perhaps I'm overthinking it (so many people tend to 'underthink' instead)... But anyway, if the YC channel is intended to showcase the community and our works, I think the 'classical' crowd has far fewer chances to get their works known and performed than the pop-rock songwriters (who rather often form their own ensembles and are able to perform themselves, even if their pieces are indeed serious).

The channel has been up and running for a couple of months now and there are indeed a lot of different styles on it. I do understand your concern and I'm not sure how to deal with it. I want the channel to be centered around 'classical music'. But that term is so broad it can be very difficult to draw the line.

I would second Gijs in giving priority to 'classical' works (as they have a harder task getting themselves and their works known, and target a relatively smaller audience). But I don't want it to be elitist or discriminatory, as there are golden talents in songwriting as well.

I hope to be understandable now...

I don't believe there is a difference, personally. My music is JUST as jazz/pop/rock as it is classical. I consider it all music.

I agree with you to a point, but a WELL written jazz/pop song is just as difficult and satisfying to create as a sonata or a symphony. Here's the thing: most of the really good pop/rock/jazz music.. nobody KNOWS about.

Just like "classical" music.

You have to be a sell-out in the classical world to be famous (Nico Muhly... ... Eric Whitacre. ;) ), or you have to be completely ridiculous (Cage/Glass/Reich/etc.)

You have to be a sell-out in the pop world to be famous (Michael Buble, Britney Spears, Lil Wayne etc...), or you have to be completely ridiculous (Gaga, Gwen Stefani, Lil Wayne, etc...)

It's all the same.

You have to be a sell-out in the classical world to be famous (Nico Muhly... ... Eric Whitacre. ;) ), or you have to be completely ridiculous (Cage/Glass/Reich/etc.)

You have to be a sell-out in the pop world to be famous (Michael Buble, Britney Spears, Lil Wayne etc...), or you have to be completely ridiculous (Gaga, Gwen Stefani, Lil Wayne, etc...)

It's all the same.

I get your point. What I can't get is how do you become a sell-out without being already famous. I like to think it all starts with one person getting to know your work and loving it.

But even as I must acknowledge the unavoidable influence of anything I listen to, I don't really try to consciously include explicit jazz or pop references in my 'classical' music. And I actually don't compose anything outside the 'classical' genre, as many of you do. Of course it's all music (we are all human); but just as everyone has his own personality and tastes, so does the music.

Anyway, as Phil stated, I may be overthinking it. We're here to speak about a YouTube channel and have ended up in musical phillosophy :toothygrin:...

Real life, bro. :D