Please help me to find music similar to these

I understand this topic may be asking something vague (I'm not asking anything specific yet I am looking for something specific), so please do feel free to add whatever musical knowledge you have to it.

It's very simple I think, to grasp these short snippets, but I find these two to be rather intelligent and enjoyable to listen to, if I could only extract more influence from something of their length. I would love to get some more ideas as to similarities or possible influences. I'd much appreciate your help and like for you to listen.

These two pieces are pretty mainstream as far as classical music, but I regard here really only the specific passing of notes within the specified time frame.

The first (1:42-1:48) is the quick passing of the french horn/trombone and accompaniment beginning at 1:42 and finishing only several seconds later, its unfortunately so short

The same theme is introduced and modeled similiarly only some bars before it, played on the flutes, though the horns definitely give an interesting feel. I would really simply just love to hear more in this style and know what this 'repetitive, rhythmic, joyous, perhaps jolly' component may have been influenced by. I may already have weak ideas, but the purpose is for you to hopefully show me something I don't know about. It could be obvious.

The second (0:11-0:23) faintly resembles the compositional intelligence of the first, except it is more melodically drawn and developed with less 'effect', the melody that begins after 0:11 and stops at 0:23, Many of you probably know it

In some sense it does feel like a melody of simple introductory chance, though there is a certain intelligent purposefulness to the melody and harmony, in of course its simplicity, that seems supernatural or elite to me, In both sudden cases, which I'm sure is a common feature of musical subjectivity.

(Let me remind myself of a similar horn sound from the first, in this soundtrack that is not so within the 'pop' harmony at 3:14

, a track of which interestingly the first clip I posted has a similar rhythmic feel to, in the guitar-to-strings hay dance of sorts at the beginning of the third clip: 0:21, which I quite enjoy. Feel free to comment on these segments too.. Not directly related but gives some notion.)

Please feel free to comment here at any rate of similar discussion, or any ideas about just one of these. Thanks for reading/listening to my simple pleasures.

I would love to get some more ideas as to similarities or possible influences.

Why not first post the similarities and/or possible influences you see first, so others can add to it? There's no need for overlap.

Well, to be honest it was upon chance that I was able to relate the first segment to the second in some way. This may be the only weak link I can think up at the moment, because any other idea I may have is not coming to mind directly, so I'm really awaitingly open to every input. It will likely be of help to me. I'm glad you've shown interest in this topic.

However the two I have chosen are really kind of old favorites of mine that I just began to reunite with in a more determined way and really start to wonder about. I felt similarly about the beginning melody of Can Can as I did upon rehearing in my head Chopin's Grand Waltz Brilliante, I did not re-listen to the pieces, but the melodies which were hauntingly stuck in my head without a reference, like they have very important features. The first video segment differs in that is just has an amazing effect more than anything, one that I can't yet trace elsewhere (it may even be as simple as the style of repetitive horns John Williams and Tchaikovsky use as accompaniment :), yet the segment has more attention drawn to it, like its true influences imply more, in one sense because it sounds like a melody with a rhythm and harmony underneath it. I would like to know more if possible.) I have a general lack of knowledge about any influences.

A large number of sections of operatic overtures from the high Romantic period fit in with Offenbach quite nicely. Try Berlioz' Overture to Benvenuto Cellini.

The Harry Potter thing is taken right out of mid-Romantic pieces, especially concert pieces. Berlioz came to my mind instantly.

Hi thank you both. Do you think you could be more specific? ie. what would be a good example for a concert piece? I'm listening to Berlioz but don't hear any clear reference.

Listen to the Witche's Sabbath from his Symphonie Fantastique. Harold in Italy might have some good stuff too.

So are you talking about this one?

It is 10 minutes long. I listened to it twice but don't hear what or where you're talking about. Just to make sure we're on the same page, I don't really care about the "harry potter' track of music, only those couple of seconds I mentioned.

I'll take a seat at the second concert you mentioned. Update: I listened. I'm not sure what you're hearing I don't hear. If you could point it out for me, that would be great. Thank you.

I'm not cutting you off, but out of curiosity: is anyone else curious about these clips' origin, or is it just the usual, music is music? I would really like to hear the next person's ideas while I wait.