SimonRubin Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 I´m writing a piece in 12/8. I have 4 eights notes in each bar. the question is: should I have one quarter note rest or two eight notes rests in between each note? I hope you understand my question, I´m not very familiar to the English music terms. Thankfull for fast answers! Quote
Rosenskjold Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 I think it depends on the tempo of the piece, but I would say two eight notes, because that's where the beat is. Quote
SimonRubin Posted January 12, 2012 Author Posted January 12, 2012 I´m also leaning on having two eights, just thinking that the piece looks crammed with lot of notations, but it´s easier to read with two eights, and that`s probably the most important. The piece is soon to be uploaded. I hope today. Maybe it will be easier to say ones opinion after that. It´s the third movement of the element symphony Quote
Rosenskjold Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 I´m also leaning on having two eights, just thinking that the piece looks crammed with lot of notations, but it´s easier to read with two eights, and that`s probably the most important. Exactly, I think the best idea in this case is to ask the musicians which they'd prefer, since that's really all that matters. It's not like the pauses are gonna be different anyway Quote
jrcramer Posted January 12, 2012 Posted January 12, 2012 depends on how the 12 is subdivided, if it is 3+3+3+3 (which is basicaly 4/4 in tuplets) then I would prefer the quarter note rest. In about any other subdivision one would make that clear with the eight rests. Another way to approach this is writing dotted quarter notes (without rests) with a staccato articualtion, that would be the less cramped notation method ;) Quote
Tokkemon Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 In *any* time signature in three, the largest duration of rest common to *all* parts of the best must be shown. A quarter note would be wrong because the beat is not divided into quarter notes but eighth notes. i.e. in 12/8 a dotted quarter note has three eighths. That's the largest "common" duration for all part of the best. If you put a quarter note, then there's still an 8th note left and it is uneven. This is confusing for the player because 12/8 (in the normal four-beat way) is never divided into beats of only quarter notes (as opposed to dotted-quarters). The same principles applies, for example, in 3/4. A half rest (2 beats) is wrong because the pulse is the dotted half (or quarter if you prefer). Quote
Rosenskjold Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 In *any* time signature in three, the largest duration of rest common to *all* parts of the best must be shown. A quarter note would be wrong because the beat is not divided into quarter notes but eighth notes. i.e. in 12/8 a dotted quarter note has three eighths. That's the largest "common" duration for all part of the best. If you put a quarter note, then there's still an 8th note left and it is uneven. This is confusing for the player because 12/8 (in the normal four-beat way) is never divided into beats of only quarter notes (as opposed to dotted-quarters). The same principles applies, for example, in 3/4. A half rest (2 beats) is wrong because the pulse is the dotted half (or quarter if you prefer). I'm confused by all the different words you use in english, can you give some examples with some sheet music? Quote
Tokkemon Posted January 13, 2012 Posted January 13, 2012 Right-o! See the diagram below. The important lines are 3 and 6. Notice the divided rests on the back end of the beat in the correct versions vs. the non-divided in the incorrect versions. This is because the quarter note is the common division in 3/4 (as in the first line). Same principle applies in 12/8. The 8th is the common division (line 4) so they must be shown in the rests. 1 Quote
SimonRubin Posted January 13, 2012 Author Posted January 13, 2012 It was the last line i wanted answers to. And i decided the correct way. I think I knew that somewhere in my head but I got a Blackout or something... Thanks for answers anyway! =) Quote
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