Marzique Bordex Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 Perfect Harmony & Complex chromatics are equal in I.Q. musical stimulus therefore indivisible. The Brain is a lament configuration matrix that destines for oblivion thus trajedy in music so popular & considered an advanced trait of a maestro. Thus a composition of diametric worth or greater intricasy has a greater nootropic(Nootropic=Intelligence enhancing) quotient than lesser rivals. It is wounded psychology that predetermines the overall musical product by a master kompozer thus novices will have difficulty in producing masterworks unless they are born partially an adult otherwise known as a genius. The four main emotions of music & emotionology are happy,sad,fear, & anger which are quadrilateral in modulation each one with a formula to produce music pertinent to each one. Furthermore a novice will begin a journey from simple music & as he or she develops more maturity & endures a greater pain-infliction gradual experience regarding the difficulties in existence in the most extreme form of development the lament configuration thus honors it's name to yearn for the darkend majesties of musical expression but not everyone will travel this far or is worthy to. Archetypal faculties pre-determine the musical aftermath that can be in many forms, for some memories,other vision,dreams,hidden desires,twisted psychologies,depravity,mere keyword determinants, & the list goes on. Music presents itself as a mirror puzzle of the human & non-human brain & the universal consciousness itself thus through it we better understand ourselves since it pre-defines what is music to each of us & also the mirror to non-musical concepts that are converted as a form of musical presentation. Thus the kompozer's music is also a frozen & non-stationary blue-print of his neuro-construct. Even the Double-Helix may have something to do with the discovery of counterpoint. To be neuro-active in music one must experiment with modern music puzzles not just the personal development of official artform diciplines for the output of musical brain power to be at it's highest thus highly nootropic. Even the most simple melodies which can be considered " Super-Harmonies " are in it's most profound level far more complex than they appear to the undeveloped musician.This has been a compendium of some of my music concepts, a culmination of gathered data, brief but coherent. Anyone is invited to add more to the mysteries but i doubt that mine presented here can be effectively counteracted but rather more add-ons to the musical puzzle. 1
Marzique Bordex Posted May 26, 2012 Author Posted May 26, 2012 -Writes unintelligible mess -Says it's irrefutable :horrified: My thought processess are very sophisticated & seemingly impractical to such a degree that some would consider unintelligible. :hmmm: 1
Ananth Balijepalli Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 Hey Marzique - I appreciate the time you took to write this post! Unfortunately, you have admitted that nobody will understand it. Therefore, I do not see the point of it existing here. I also would urge for you to schedule an appointment with a doctor because you seem to be a little delusional about your understanding of music. 2
SYS65 Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 wow what is all that ? I don't know if this is relevant... I know is that brain creates certain patterns in the first years of life, according to the first music it heard, the music arrives later gets only compared to the previous patterns, that's why people always says the music they heard as young was better than todays, is a common feeling. :dunno:
xrsbit Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 Overlooking intricacies the Concepts despite contributing the cogent conceptualization of Musiotics your ideas are. I would say deriving Parallels which in itself, allowing despoiliation per se, (the Infinite within Cosmos and the Infinitesimal) disallowing Universal. It inanity is the music; Profane within compounded cannot be compared to the like and of Baroque music, the Classical neo-Romanticism. The context Beneath which of viewpoints rhombus Divine and not misconstruing integral Shifts, bijective and non-local. Relativism is blurred, "dividing by itself" another Which all Pretentiousness can muster. Therefore, Marzique, I postulate that you are wrong. --Ian Constaxulaxium Pazuria 6
Austenite Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 Hard to grasp these concepts are. Feel sometimes I that reading am I the posts of a great master... Jedi Master Yoda. On a serious note, I'd point out that "tragedy in music", rather than an advanced trait in a composer, is an effect of a composer being able to pour his life experiences into music with both skill and honesty. But a musician might as well to strip his music of emotional traits and write in an increasingly abstract fashion - which is not bad in itself, as long as he doesn't think himself as the only smart guy in the block just for doing this. Both are equally valid artistic statements, when done with integrity. 2
Voce Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 I completely agree with everything you've said, bleep bloop bleep
SSC Posted May 26, 2012 Posted May 26, 2012 The four main emotions of music & emotionology are... Emotionology, eh? Anyone is invited to add more to the mysteries but i doubt that mine presented here can be effectively counteracted but rather more add-ons to the musical puzzle. Emotionology? Really? 2
Marzique Bordex Posted May 27, 2012 Author Posted May 27, 2012 Emotionalogy can represent the human brain as a cuboid particularly the core of the brain known as the Basal Ganglia which is said to be the kernel of all emotional stimuli & response. Where one can represent anger through music easily in a minor key & rapid tempo thus=anger, it's sub-emotion or sub-demon envy is more difficult to realize, perhaps an element of mock might help. The brain responds to music as stimuli therefore directly into the brain which in turns goes through myriad of neuronal procis & the more complex the music content is it's only fair to assume the brain gets smarter being exposed to this passionate, innovative, & intricately-structured musical matrix especially more when you like as oppossed to dislike because favoritism in musical preference adds a surplus of fine musical absorbtion all things being relative i need not remind. Oblivion? Take for instance Paganini who was murdered by the religious italian order for his unbearable deboucherous activities much like Mozart had they known the reprocusions of their premature death would not have lived such a suicidal lifestyle. My pretentiousness i draw from what i have read, experienced, & brain-stormed. There is also evidence that baroque music at about a tempo of 60 is the most ideal for a certain brain-wave configuration that allows the utmost learning & memorizing possible as oppossed to slower or faster tempos. I myself have at times relaxed myself by myself even without the music & had an vivid vision of space & the stars without being asleep not to mention episodes of what is known as a " Waking Dream " as oppossed to the normal R.E.M. parameters when one is in deep sleep. I think it would be fun to make an album called " Emotionologies " where through the use of the emotional formulas every song would be carefully constructed to convey each emotion purely, the four main & the lesser achievable do to they being more complicated to convert into music, A musical album of emotions for the piano per say thus learning more about music & it's emotional formulas. After that, more advanced endevoirs maybe undertaken such as non-emotional concepts or conversions such as " Tele-Acoustics " where one converts actual enviromental sounds like a scream, a brook, a moan, a laugh, etc. by the mere klavier some of which i have sucessfully discoverred for myself, even the abstract but coherent conveyance of an exquisite concrete building with an ethereal blissful quality about executivism; Metallic Eternities? There is also the beauty of not just music but the visual beauty(Parallel Literal Structures) of the score itself merging perfectly with the overall motif of the pertinent objective vividly & effectively illustrated simultaneously. With this i tried to answer all your arguments, what is your view? :hmmm:
Marzique Bordex Posted May 27, 2012 Author Posted May 27, 2012 Sorry, i forgot about high school :headwall: then again i did not finish high school either. LOL. P.S. I really enjoy thinking a lot, writting, & ofcourse, reading like a growing weed. :D
Rosenskjold Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 Emotionalogy You might want to look that up, I'm pretty sure it's "Emotionology"
xrsbit Posted May 30, 2012 Posted May 30, 2012 Stay in school, kids. And don't waste away your life with drugs. 4
Marzique Bordex Posted May 31, 2012 Author Posted May 31, 2012 Stay in school, kids. And don't waste away your life with drugs. :horrified:
jrcramer Posted May 31, 2012 Posted May 31, 2012 It is true that there are 4 basic emotions. It is a modernist dream to connect those one-to-one and solely to brain function. It is wrong to locate that only in basal ganglia. It is beyond the worst stupidity to connect emotions (let alone specific brain function) one-to-one to certain musical aspects, like major and minor. there are no words 1
Marzique Bordex Posted June 2, 2012 Author Posted June 2, 2012 It is true that there are 4 basic emotions. It is a modernist dream to connect those one-to-one and solely to brain function. It is wrong to locate that only in basal ganglia. It is beyond the worst stupidity to connect emotions (let alone specific brain function) one-to-one to certain musical aspects, like major and minor. there are no words All things considered, for the sake of argument, & overall perhaps when one is happy the pleasure chemicals are dominant therefore pointing to the major scale & other emotions like bliss produced by harmonies like 7ths thus the brain is intoxicated positively as opposed to the minor scale which gives way to anger a negative emotion which the brain in turn is in psychological distress not to mention fear produced by acute chromatics. Furthermore, the four basic emotions & their polarity are as follows:Happy=positive Anger=negative Sad=negative Fear=negative Thus no wonder some or the majority of people are in some psychological distress or another & depression problems, the negative polarity of emotions over positive by the main margin are 3 to 1. And thus being a kompozer is not easy since kompozers deal with the emotional language more than most people. :veryunsure: 1
jrcramer Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 ... when one is happy the pleasure chemicals are dominant therefore pointing to the major scale ... as opposed to the minor scale which gives way to anger a negative emotion [bla bla] I am not disagreeing with your description that happiness is positive. The point is that you CAN NOT say that major is only positive, or minor is only negative. This is the biggest nonsense I have ever heard. Besides that it is ridiculous that you fit that in words mimicking knowledge of neurology which you obviously lack. There is depressing music in major, and happy fast music in minor (which by your standards would express anger) And then are you only talking about terminology which isn't describing all music. There is atonal music as well, you know. There words as major and minor do not really make sense. But still they convey certain emotions if you like. Now, end this nonsense.
Marzique Bordex Posted June 2, 2012 Author Posted June 2, 2012 Well jrcramer you are right technically speaking but one has to start somewhere as to the fundamentals not all of a sudden dealing with all the contradicting intricasies then as one progresses one can deal with more in-depth analysis & non-contraverted affirmation taking into account all diametric factors of what i call Musiotics. :nod: 1
jsands Posted June 2, 2012 Posted June 2, 2012 I love how he keeps liking his own posts, because nobody else will. Also, Marzique Bordex, what's with the red writing and bad grammar? I doubt that anybody who knows a good deal about psychology and neurobiology would create posts that are, for me anyway, impossible to read, and unless you have good qualifications in these two subjects I shall simply dismiss your ramblings as male bovine excrement. Good day to you, sir! 1
Marzique Bordex Posted June 2, 2012 Author Posted June 2, 2012 Great performanz, i used to own a recording from a cd that brought to light to forgotten pieces played by Horowitz. :happytears:
Marzique Bordex Posted June 2, 2012 Author Posted June 2, 2012 Furthermore, musiotics being a science in it's infant stage, sadness expressed through a major scale presents a paradox, " The emotional impurities ", where both the north & south musical polarities merge together in harmonious chaos. These although very old musical moods in human history i refer as " Atypical Conjuctions ", the impurities which people easily take for granted as being conventional & natural & they are. These complex hybridals can present themselves as bidimensional, tridimensional, or even quadimensional simultaneousities that can be illustrated as coordinate chaos within a 3-dimensional cuboid. Happiness in a fast tempo in a minor scale merely impurifies the tonal scale through velocity & i am dealing with pure emotional logic at hand at first. Atonal works? I 've composed them, very good ones, even better than are available on the net but that is another argument because these type of works are very complicated & cannot be stressed in the beginning as examples to deal with along the the elemental phase of musiotics. I don't care much for perfect grammar premeditatedly since i am also at the stage of experimental linguistics in my personal studies, as for the color, that's what is there for. :dunno: :censored: :sith: :evil: 1
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