aracu Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 In writing out a non-pitched percussion part which is easier to read on a one line staff, how would you go about writing a cue from the violas? Would you - have the melodic cue float around the one line staff - change the staff from one to five lines w/ different clef for the cue - add another staff just for the cue - use a five line instead of one line staff for the percussion part all the time - not use any pitched cues - do something else Quote
Tokkemon Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 Change the staff to a 5-line staff for cues. One line is easier to read for non-pitched percussion otherwise. Quote
aracu Posted September 3, 2012 Author Posted September 3, 2012 How do you feel about the possibility of having the melody float around the percussionist's single staff line? It adapts the cue into the non-pitched percussion "world" with a minimum of complication. Quote
Tokkemon Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 That's stupid. If the cue is for a melody then write the melody, not some abstraction of it. Percussionists read pitches regularly and deliberately dumbing the cues down to remove them is insulting to the player. Besides, it would be harder to read. 2 Quote
aracu Posted September 3, 2012 Author Posted September 3, 2012 That's stupid. Sir, it is not appropiate, helpful or credible for a moderater to judge ideas with a derogatory tone. You can easily express your opinions in a polite manner. Please try harder to moderate your comments. 1 Quote
Tokkemon Posted September 3, 2012 Posted September 3, 2012 I'm not being rude, I'm just telling it like it is. It's a stupid idea. 1 Quote
Guest Locrian Posted September 4, 2012 Posted September 4, 2012 That's stupid. If the cue is for a melody then write the melody, not some abstraction of it. Percussionists read pitches regularly and deliberately dumbing the cues down to remove them is insulting to the player. Besides, it would be harder to read. You're a dick. Quote
maestrowick Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 It is not common practice for melodies to be written on anything besides 5-line staves. Any other situation would cause a performance to be postponed or canceled. Quote
aracu Posted September 22, 2012 Author Posted September 22, 2012 It's certainly a valid point of view to have, to not write out cues of melodic lines for non-pitched percussion instruments using the same non-pitched staff. However, it is an exaggeration to state that it would cause a performance to be canceled. Can we please express our opinions in a less confrontational god/tradition fearing, law, order and punishment style? I am not looking for an arguement, but simply exploring the possibilities. There are many questions about how to go about improving writing out percussion parts, as percussion has evolved in it's orchestral role, and I'm sure we can approach them calmly. Quote
Tokkemon Posted September 22, 2012 Posted September 22, 2012 An even basic cursory study of actual percussion parts would easily answer these questions. If you can't find real ones peruse some of the parts on IMSLP. Very interesting publishing choices. And no, its not an exaggeration. Rehearsals will be stopped if the parts are not adequate for rehearsing. Quote
aracu Posted September 22, 2012 Author Posted September 22, 2012 I am interested in your opinion. The IMSLP recommendation is helpful. The statement "rehearsals will be stopped if the parts are not adequate for rehearsing" is obvious but is being used as a deceptive argument. Quote
Roberto Paolo Riggio Posted January 26, 2015 Posted January 26, 2015 If I were you, I would try it, and if it looks like it would work, keep it. If it seems confusing, try something else. Percussionists don't need to know the specific notes being used in a cue, only the rhythm and shape of the melody, and what instrument is playing it. It's just to help them find where they are. It's really not a big deal. What matters is if it will work or not, not whether or not it's conventional. Quote
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