Key Change Problems

Hey guys,

So I'm working on a piece that I want to change keys..modes...I dunno. Something. But my brain is stuck I'll post links to the mp3 and pdf-- keep in mind this is UNFINISHED and I have quite a lot of work to do in the stuff I've already written. If you feel the urge to provide constructive criticisms, you are more than welcome to.

Here's a summary of the problem: I have the ensemble holding a D major chord at the moment, and in my head I could hear the bass changing from a D to a C natural and then changing the tonality of the following section... but each time I try to figure out what it is my head is thinking it sounds wrong to my ears. Plunking it out on the pi-nan-er doesn't do much to help me. I'm wondering if anyone can try to figure out what it is I'm thinking of..but brain farting on what it actually is. (Yes, I know. A woman asking you to read her mind. Shocker.) 

If I can't figure it out I'll just scratch the idea and do something else...but I'd like to see if I can figure this out first. Any help would be much appreciated!!

PS Skip ahead to ms. 35 to find the area I'm specifically talking about.

PPS Note the stuff after the "problem area" is all just noodles and ideas-- please don't judge me yet :P

Visions of Grace.MUS

Visions of Grace.pdf

Visions of Grace.mp3

    First of all , have a nice day.  All women have the best practical ways to solve problems.

 I have listened your composition and heard the problem.  Now!  Can you please leave for a while the written notes,

 and go to your synth. Change the organ, the sound to another simple.  Take a piano or an electric soft piano.

  But careful, not a Musette!  Then, play again slowly the part you know with clear sound.

    Help your ears, in order to help you.  I know that many friends, even you will laugh with me. Maybe.

      Try what i am saying and i will be glad if i helped you.  Who knows. An old man's advice could be.. just fine!

    (I have your part and i will try the same on my pc.) 

     (Forgive my english)

Well, what key do you want to modulate to? What you described involving changing one of the notes in a D major chord to C natural would be a good smooth way to go to G major by turning it into a dominant 7th chord of G if that's what you want.

P.S. If you're new to composing I suggest starting with something smaller than a full orchestra to work with

    The real help for you, Elizabeth, comes from orchdork02.   As i see it's a complete analysis of what you have to do!

  And i agree with him!    But don't forget! I insist for using simple sounds in order to create the melody. It will help you for sure.

I quite like that C natural, not completely sure on the harmony, but as it stands, it fits- but I feel it could be a lot more exciting... Having that C natural swell in out of nowhere creates a sense of mystery, instead of thinking 'I know where it's going' you could really get a good wave of chills with a good transition point ;)

Well, what key do you want to modulate to? What you described involving changing one of the notes in a D major chord to C natural would be a good smooth way to go to G major by turning it into a dominant 7th chord of G if that's what you want.

P.S. If you're new to composing I suggest starting with something smaller than a full orchestra to work with

I'm not new to composing... most of my stuff I learn through trial and error (I don't intend on ever really getting published). And that's exactly my point... I don't have perfect pitch so when I have something in my head (like most people) I need to go plunk it out. Except for I can't seem to figure it out this time..