EmperorWeeGeeII Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) In a lot of moments when i am writing a piece, it gets to a point where i don't know how to continue it, what would fit to continue it, etc. That kind of thing makes me uninspired and extremely frustrated. In fact this is probably the reason why i only finished 2 out of the 8 pieces i was composing a while ago. (and when i say composing i mean writing on paper in front of the piano) This is basically me getting stuck on a piece. How do you guys handle that kind of situation and how should i handle it? Do you think the reason i get stuck is because i lack musical knowledge, or something? help me out guys :c Forgot to mention: the 2 pieces i've finished, were finished on a time where i didn't have that much musical knowledge, so i tended to focus more on the music itself rather than if its going to be good or not. For some reason the more knowledge i gather the more i keep making my pieces more complex. I think that is the reason why i get stuck so much. More knowlodge could help though. Edited May 10, 2014 by EmperorWeeGeeII Quote
KJthesleepdeprived Posted May 10, 2014 Posted May 10, 2014 I've found that mapping it out before I start writing helps to prevent that from happening so much. Also, for me, showers help stimulate my imagination and I can think of ideas more easily that I might not have had otherwise. That may not work for you but it's something to try, perhaps. I don't know how much musical knowledge you possess, but I don't think that that is necessarily the problem. Knowing more has increased the quality of my ideas significantly. However, it has not changed the fact that I still get stuck sometimes. Quote
EmperorWeeGeeII Posted May 10, 2014 Author Posted May 10, 2014 (edited) Thanks man, knowing more has also increased the quality of my ideas, but i still think i lack a lot of knowledge, probably why i get stuck so much. My pieces go as far as my ideas do, and my ideas usualy cover a couple of staffs, after that i don't know what else to do and how to continue :/ any other suggestions guys? Edited May 10, 2014 by EmperorWeeGeeII Quote
pateceramics Posted May 11, 2014 Posted May 11, 2014 I use my phone to record, and go for a walk in the woods and hum what I've written so far. I always end up spontaneously adding something new, or varying the rhythms, or putting in a key change, without really thinking about it as I go. There's something about walking and getting away from the paper that seems to loosen up my brain, and then I have a record on my phone that I can go back through when I'm home again to remember what I came up with and write down the best parts. Driving seems to work well too. Something about being in motion. There is a need to fill the aural space with sound, and the brain obliges. (: But for me, the most important is a way to record, so that I can just hum, without trying to write it down at the same time. It seems to free up my brain to let the music out. 3 Quote
EmperorWeeGeeII Posted May 11, 2014 Author Posted May 11, 2014 (edited) Whoa! Never thought on doing that, i could give that a try one day. The problem would be to record what i hum, because where I live walking around with a phone in your hands = get robbed. Any other ideas people? Edited May 11, 2014 by EmperorWeeGeeII Quote
pateceramics Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 Or pace around the house… (: The point is to be able to play with the tune without the pressure of trying to write it down simultaneously. Quote
Shadowwolf3689 Posted May 12, 2014 Posted May 12, 2014 You could always just record yourself improvising on the piano/guitar/whatever for half an hour or so, then listen to it and choose the best parts. Quote
DanJTitchener Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 I assault my piano in the hope of hearing something worth writing down... 1 Quote
Ken320 Posted May 13, 2014 Posted May 13, 2014 (edited) It's very frustrating. If I'm writing to order I cannot allow myself the luxury of being stuck. I may say to myself, OK, this is NOT going to be perfect, but there are good parts. Recognize the good and expand on it. I may never feel the joy, the exhilaration of discovery as when I write only for myself. But that's how it is. It's a mind game with a certain attitude. Coffee helps. Edited May 13, 2014 by Ken320 1 Quote
EmperorWeeGeeII Posted May 13, 2014 Author Posted May 13, 2014 Coffee is good, im always drinking it when in front of the piano, but the cool music ideas come at random times at the day in places where i just can't use a phone to record the hums (don't have any way to register the idea) Quote
j.p. Posted May 14, 2014 Posted May 14, 2014 More knowledge is nearly always helpful but that might not be the problem here. Many of the best pieces of music don't actually have the best musical ideas contained within them but they work so well because they have a strong sense of structure and dramatic flow. After all, music is a temporal art. The listener wants to be taken on a journey of some sort. When I'm stuck, I often find it helpful to listen back to what I've written so far and ask myself a few questions from a listener's perspective: Where, as a listener, would I like this piece of music to go next? Should it lead to a climax then fade out? Would the piece benefit from a calmer section? Should the piece explore contrasting material or expand on current material? Should the new material be reached suddenly or do I need a transition? Is there a sense of growth/progress to the piece so far? etc. 1 Quote
nanotyrano Posted July 17, 2014 Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Whenever I get stuck on a piece, I leave it for a while. As I like to call it, I've run out of 'creative fuel'. I might leave it for twenty minutes, maybe a day, but once the 'creative fuel' is filled up again it hits me unexpectedly. A lot of the time I'll be browsing the Internet and be playing random stuff, and that's when I'll get the, "Oh, that sounded pretty cool!". It's a matter of time and a clear, relaxed mind. But much like what others said: look at what you have so far, pick out the best parts and base go from there. Edited July 17, 2014 by nanotyrano Quote
William Diffin Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 Don't drive; ride a bicycle. Listen to loads and loads of other people's music. Quote
rayray Posted May 30, 2020 Posted May 30, 2020 I never get stuck composing music. Music always just flows for me. Maybe it will help if you play a piece similar to the style you are composing in and then just keep on going according to what you feel and start composing from there. Quote
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