Composing Short Pieces Using A Theme By Luderart

^ I second that, although I don't think I've been here long enough to participate in any challenges.

Rubbish!

Its a great way to announce yourself. :)

Rubbish!

Its a great way to announce yourself. :)

True, haha!

I wonder about the purpose of this topic. There are two possibilities:

1. To help Luderart finally learning how to compose, or

2. Wasting time instead of composing your own music and Luderart would actually believe he is so awesome composer that others use his great themes.

I dearly hope the possibility 1 would be better and I am affraid of possibility 2.

I wonder about the purpose of this topic. There are two possibilities:

1. To help Luderart finally learning how to compose, or

2. Wasting time instead of composing your own music and Luderart would actually believe he is so awesome composer that others use his great themes.

I dearly hope the possibility 1 would be better and I am affraid of possibility 2.

I hope the same... but I believe he won't think of possibility 2. DanJTitchener stated in the first post that the aim here is to help him somehow. ^^

I wonder about the purpose of this topic. There are two possibilities:

1. To help Luderart finally learning how to compose, or

2. Wasting time instead of composing your own music and Luderart would actually believe he is so awesome composer that others use his great themes.

I dearly hope the possibility 1 would be better and I am affraid of possibility 2.

This thread is about 'composing short pieces using a theme by Luderart' and, yes, it is intended to help Luderart by providing other ways his theme could be developed.

Each piece composed belongs to each respective composer and is their own music, not Luderart's, so you're incorrect there. And at the very least, this is a compositional exercise and, thus, not a 'waste of time', as each person will hopefully add an interesting work to their portfolio.

I invite you to compose something for this challenge, Sojar.

Stopping here solely to post that rather bitter comment seems pointless to me... 

Maybe Sojar is afraid I will become like Diabelli? But I am afraid none of you here are like Beethoven or Schubert, composers to whom Diabelli offered his theme to compose a variation on. Beethoven ended up composing his great Diabelli Variations for piano Op. 120. And Diabelli is recognized chiefly for that.

I agree with Dan that this is an exercise at the very least.

I don't think he is afraid of that, Luder. He shouldn't have a reason to be anyway... He just doesn't like the idea of you thinking of yourself as a developed composer because of all the attention you're getting. The purpose of this exercise is to show you how your themes could better be developed by composers who have actually sat down and studied more thoroughly their craft than you. This is to show you how to better yourself as a composer, just saying. Diabelli was already an established and well known composer by the time he sent his piece to several different, well known composers, Beethoven and Schubert being just two. 

This is a completely different situation from that, so don't let this exercise be a misinterpretation of that, Luder. Try to learn all you can from this. 

I'm going to pass on this current challenge, perhaps the next one. 

This is a completely different situation from that, so don't let this exercise be a misinterpretation of that, Luder. Try to learn all you can from this. 

I am not letting it be a misinterpretation of that. I am just wondering if he might be misinterpreting this exercise in that way!

I don't think so.

Clementi called. He said that, yes, we can use his theme, but only if we don't write anything as good as the Magic Flute overture with it.
(Apparently, the original piano sonata has been overshadowed quite enough already...)

Mozart, that dog-gone copycat. ;) I've played that Sonata in a recital before actually for that very reason. I feel like the melody is better used in the Sonata than in the Overture, but I'm a sucker for Clementi, I am. 

http://www.youngcomposers.com/music/listen/6831/On%20a%20Theme%20by%20Luderart

There it is. Hope you like it :D

I took ages to find the time to finish it, but here's my one:   http://www.youngcomposers.com/music/listen/6870/Piano%20Sonata%20in%20D%20minor

I know there might be a few more people currently writing for this challenge, but perhaps in the next few weeks we could choose a 2nd theme?
I'm thinking of writing a slow work based on the next choice and using it as the 2nd movement of my sonata, with the 1st using Luderart's theme!

That's a cool idea Dan! I'm also eager for more of these challenges. But which of these participants shall be the chosen? Are we going to vote?

I was also thinking about how to choose the next theme for the challenge. I think each of the participants can provide a theme and then we choose, either by voting/agreement or - as was suggested earlier - I can choose as the previous challenge's theme-provider.

I was also thinking about how to choose the next theme for the challenge. I think each of the participants can provide a theme and then we choose, either by voting/agreement or - as was suggested earlier - I can choose as the previous challenge's theme-provider.

Yeah, it could a piece they think they could improve and would like different perspectives on?

But which will it be? A vote or luderart's choice? I"m fine with either one.

I like the previous challenge's theme-provider's choosing it. In this case, luderart.

I like the previous challenge's theme-provider's choosing it. In this case, luderart.

I agree. It will also help create a link from one challenge to the next, as well as somehow reward the theme-provider.

Yeah, it could a piece they think they could improve and would like different perspectives on?

I think that would be one possibility. Or the theme would be one which they think is one of their best and lends itself to the purpose of many composers developing it in their own different ways.

As for which theme the provider provides, I don't think it matters if they choose a piece they require improvement on or a fully finished piece. So long as they give us one with an actual theme to work from.

Anyway, it looks like luderart will be choosing the theme-provider for the next challenge. I think you should probably wait a bit to see if anyone posts another piece for this challenge before we move on.

Great. Is he choosing the theme as well? Are we voting one as soon as the theme-provided is elected by the previous theme-provider?

My understanding was that the theme-provider that luderart picks will be the one to choose which of his themes to submit to us.

My idea was to have all participants in the present challenge suggest one of their themes and I choose the one that will be used for the challenge. But other ways are also possible. You decide.

In any case, I think we should wait till everyone has submitted their piece for the present challenge.