Opaqueambiguity Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 When editing my profile it seems to me that it is required to pick male or female. Why gender is a required field is baffling, it has absolutely no bearing on music. And as a nonbinary genderqueer person it is pretty frustrating to have to misgender myself. Most social media websites have become more aware of this and subsequently accommodating.
Anthony Johnson Posted February 15, 2017 Posted February 15, 2017 (edited) I don't necessarily believe it's a huge deal... Edited February 15, 2017 by LostSamurai 1
Casper Belier Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 15 hours ago, Opaqueambiguity said: When editing my profile it seems to me that it is required to pick male or female. Why gender is a required field is baffling, it has absolutely no bearing on music. And as a nonbinary genderqueer person it is pretty frustrating to have to misgender myself. Most social media websites have become more aware of this and subsequently accommodating. I am not sure if you're an internet troll or an serious person, I read some of your posts and its very unclear to me!
Ken320 Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 7 hours ago, LostSamurai said: I don't necessarily believe it's a huge deal... Which part? Acquiescing to his/her/its requests, or having the requests made in the first place?
Monarcheon Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 I'm pretty sure "they" is the pronoun we use for that, rather than "it". 1
Ken320 Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 Not at all. You cannot substitute a plural designation for a personal pronoun. The "entity" wants it pinned down or eliminated entirely. Either position is entirely a political grievance.
Opaqueambiguity Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 36 minutes ago, Monarcheon said: I'm pretty sure "they" is the pronoun we use for that, rather than "it". Thank you very much. They is the appropriate pronoun. "It" is never an acceptable pronoun unless explicitly stated as such by an individual, and most transfolk, including enbies, will be seriously offended by this.
Opaqueambiguity Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 9 minutes ago, Ken320 said: Not at all. You cannot substitute a plural designation for a personal pronoun. The "entity" wants it pinned down or eliminated entirely. Either position is entirely a political grievance. What? Singular they is common usage. It has precedent and is widely accepted. 1
Anthony Johnson Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 1 hour ago, Ken320 said: Which part? Acquiescing to his/her/its requests, or having the requests made in the first place? Just in general. I can see where this would be a cause of concern, though I feel it's unfair to compare this site to others
Ken320 Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 6 minutes ago, LostSamurai said: Just in general. I can see where this would be a cause of concern, though I feel it's unfair to compare this site to others I was just trying to get you to clarify your wishy washy statement. Just in general doesn't really help either.
Monarcheon Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 We are not turning this into a political debate. The concern has been expressed. Allow compromise. Open-minded but not liberally so.
Opaqueambiguity Posted February 16, 2017 Author Posted February 16, 2017 Singular they is the use in English of the pronoun they or its inflected or derivative forms, them, their, theirs, and themselves (or themself), as a gender-neutral singular pronoun. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they A few months ago, the Washington Post style guide accepted it. And it's been welcomed by people who identify as genderqueer and who feel that "he" and "she" don't necessarily exhaust all the gender possibilities. Universities allow students to select it as their personal pronoun. And so does Facebook, so that your friends will get notices like "Wish them a happy birthday." http://www.npr.org/2016/01/13/462906419/everyone-uses-singular-they-whether-they-realize-it-or-not These gender-neutral constructions, which not so long ago may have sounded odd or even unthinkable to traditionalists, are becoming accepted as standard English. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/03/magazine/whos-they.html?_r=0 Singular they, which The Post officially adopted in its Style guide in 2015, is already a common habit in American speech. An example: "Everyone wants their cat to succeed." Earlier, the so-called proper way to say it would have been, “Everyone wants his or her cat to succeed.” But what gave this word new prominence was its usefulness as a way to refer to people who don't want to be called "he" or "she." https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/01/08/donald-trump-may-win-this-years-word-of-the-year/?utm_term=.8eed759e110e However please continue to invalidate. Using "it" as a pronoun is a transphobic epithet.
chopin Posted February 16, 2017 Posted February 16, 2017 I meant no harm at all and to be honest I never really thought about it. I added an "NA" field to those of you who don't wish to leave a gender. 3
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