Youngc Posted June 29, 2018 Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) Subject: 2 Bars Edited June 29, 2018 by Youngc Quote
Monarcheon Posted June 29, 2018 Posted June 29, 2018 Again, if you're going for Bach, no. It also doesn't follow a lot of the Baroque voice leading rules, but if it's not Baroque then don't worry about it. You could argue it's a diatonic fugue, but a standard tonal fugue would have your answer actually in the key of the dominant (F∆) (occasionally subdominant i.e. Bach Tocatta/Fugue), instead of a transposed version with the intervals changed. The fact that your third entrance is the same as the second is also a little strange. 1 Quote
Youngc Posted June 29, 2018 Author Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) My Subjects (the answers in the other three voices) I thought they could be real or Tonal, and I have both, The voice leading, are you talking about chords....... Edited June 29, 2018 by Youngc Quote
Monarcheon Posted June 29, 2018 Posted June 29, 2018 Yeah, I think I mentioned it (the video and I use different terms), but you do have a diatonic fugue (what he calls a tonal subject/answer), where the intervals are changing. It's just a bit stricter in Baroque writing. 1 Quote
Youngc Posted June 29, 2018 Author Posted June 29, 2018 (edited) OHHHHH. the Real answer is the BAROQUE way??? If it is I understand and thank you for all of your help! If I am correct, just reply yes or no, please! Edited June 29, 2018 by Youngc Quote
Monarcheon Posted June 29, 2018 Posted June 29, 2018 Kinda sorta. The real answer is used a lot in Baroque writing (Bach's most famous fugues use real answers), but they're honestly just different ways of doing fugues. As long as the rules are followed, there's no "better" way etc. My focus is on Renaissance counterpoint more than Baroque/Classical counterpoint, so I'm definitely not an infinite resource on the subject. 😊 1 Quote
Pietro17 Posted August 19, 2018 Posted August 19, 2018 About real/tonal answers: In fact Bach did use tonal answers very often, 16 of 24 fugues in WTC 1 have tonal answers, in The Art of Fugue every simple fugue have tonal answer. About your fugue: I think the subject would be better if the third note was "a" not "b flat". Also watch out the parallel octaves at the beginning of measure 3 and 5 (S and B), and parallel fifths in beginning of 4. Voice leading means to watch the intervals between voices, for example you have to avoid ninths and sevenths in two-part counterpoint (see measures 4 second half of beat 3). But I agree with Monarcheon, the way you did the answers is a little strange. The second entry of subject could be a great real answer in subdominant, I think 1 Quote
Youngc Posted August 20, 2018 Author Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) @Pietro17 I thought the answer (the subject repeated) was supposed to be a 5th up or a 4th down from the starting pitch of the (first time we hear the) subject? Edited August 20, 2018 by Youngc Quote
Youngc Posted August 20, 2018 Author Posted August 20, 2018 Also I have another fugue question topic: Quote
Pietro17 Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 The answer can be in dominant (5th up or 4th down) or in subdominant (4th up or 5th down). Answers in subdominant are very rare, though , but there are some examples - Toccata and Fugue in d minor by Bach or Bach's Sinfonia from Partita in c minor. 1 Quote
Pietro17 Posted August 20, 2018 Posted August 20, 2018 Have you read a crash-course in writing fugues? You can start practicing writing fugues by taking melodies (from other composers or your own) and write only expositions for three or four voices 1 Quote
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