Self-destruction Waltz

Lately we talked about destruction of music, etc... Well, I did this piece.

Well, you set it up and then you knocked it down. So, mission accomplished! But I don't know if it was autodestruct since a sentient being destroyed it. 🙂

I haven't heard this idea of music destruction before. Interesting piece, thanks for uploading.

This is interesting, reminds me of Les Dawson

3 hours ago, edfgi234 said:

I haven't heard this idea of music destruction before. Interesting piece, thanks for uploading.

 

Look at the main chat.

@Luis Hernández

Sounds like someone having a mental breakdown.

It make sense because valses as such are too repetitive and empty,

it might symbolize the way that @Monarcheon is tired of the regular (boring?) tonal music all around her?

idk, I think you had that  discussion we had on the main chat in mind:

16 hours ago, Luis Hernández said:

Lately we talked about destruction of music

So you used these two contrasting idea to convey this... difference between the two edges of music?

The classic and harmonically-rhythmically boring and the inverse modern harmonically-rhythmically interesting, out of the old limits.

I really like the sound of close low keys on the piano smashed together.

When I gave my rain prayer to another composer I know he removed this low little cluster before the part they talk,

and I told him that's probably the most important part of the piano- this deep heavy shocking effect.

Maybe... maybe I should have gone further....

🔻

Thanks @Rabbival507

Yes I was thinking in that conversiton from the main chat. Of course, I don't dare to express what others can feel, that's personal. But this is just my musical impression.

The issue with the clusters... The most important is if they are playable. I've seen clusters of enormous length (for example in one of Rautavaara piano concertos) that must be playd with rods. But in this case it's not necessary. These clusters are "a classic", with one forearm you press the white keys, with the other the black keys, in the range of an octave. If the octave is higher or lower the difficulty is the same.

Clusters in the piano were a nice discovering. Notation and playability were established by Henry Cowell 100 years ago. What can be done is impressive. Just take a look to a couple of this compositions, palm clusters, forearm clusters, white or black key clusters, white and black key clusters, arpeggio clusters....

@Luis Hernández

Wow!

How do you notate these things on 1:52 in the first video?

Clusters can be notated in several ways, this is how Cowell did it

One more issue: these clusters are not approximate, they are exactly written in range.

Nice! I like the compositional concept!

Not sure about the section from bar 36 though.

Good use of Dorico Pro 2 🙂

2 minutes ago, bryla said:

Nice! I like the compositional concept!

Not sure about the section from bar 36 though.

Good use of Dorico Pro 2 🙂

 

@bryla  I agree. But there's a problem with Dorico, well not only one. If you use three staves for the piano, pedal marks don't work. What I wanted is to omitt all those prolonged chords with a pedal sign, but i's not possible yet. A solution is, once an audio has been exported, rewrite the score. Dorico doesn't support cluster notation. As I show in the image, this is much more elegant and I did it with Finale (but it's like a nightmare, you need to use several layers, changing stem length, etc...., and making other workaround to make them audible). Besides, I don't use Finale anymore.