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Hello everyone,

I have listened to Piano Concerto No. 5 in E♭ major, Op. 73, by Ludwig van Beethoven and, have fallen in love with it. After listening to this I have decided to write one of my own! Listed below are the characteristics of it.

Key: A♭ major

Tempo: 110 bpm

Time Signature: 4/4

Instruments:

2 Flutes, 2 Oboes, 2 Clarinets (in B♭), 2 Bassoons, 4 Horns (in F), 2 Trumpets (in B♭), 2 Tenor Trombones, 1 Bass Trombone, Timpani, 1 Grand Piano, Violins 1, Violins 2, Violas, Violoncellos, and Contrabasses.

 I have chosen these instruments based on other piano concertos that I have listened to in the past, like Tchaikovsky No. 1 and Rachmaninoff No. 2 and would like to imitate them. This is my first piece of music that is being written for full orchestra. Any and ALL tips and tricks about orchestration, writer's block, creativity, creating new themes, motifs, or writing fun and exciting and fun, new music are very well needed! Please feel free to comment below about any and everything about anything about the piece.

Thank You!

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Hello

Writing a piano concerto is a lot of work, and your first one will probably not be that good. Mine was rubbish, and I'm happy to admit that. I assume you would like to compose a Romantic era concerto - just based on your wanting to imitate Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninoff.

I would advise finding a book about orchestration and reading that while you write - Rimsky-Korsakov's is a good one although fairly old-fashioned.

My only other tip which takes into account 

9 hours ago, shamirtheviolinist said:

writer's block, creativity, creating new themes, motifs

is to plan in advance. This takes away the likelihood of suddenly becoming stuck. 

Good luck! It's an ambitious project, but one which is very rewarding.

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There is a legend about a dialogue between Mozart and a young composer that went something like this:

Young Composer: "Herr Mozart, I am thinking of writing a symphony. How should I get started?"

Mozart: "A symphony is a very complex musical form and you are still young. Perhaps you should start with something simpler."

Young Composer: "But Herr Mozart, you were writing symphonies when you were 8 years old!"

Mozart: "Yes, but I didn’t have to ask how."

This story is almost certainly apocryphal, but that doesn’t mean it is not very much the truth.

You’re probably going to think I’m not being very helpful, and I’m usually very positive and encouraging; but I don’t believe there is anything anyone can tell you here that is going to edify you sufficiently that you’ll know how to write something as complex as a piano concerto upon reading it. 

As demonstrated above, If you have to ask how to write something, you’re not ready to write it.    

As Mozart may or may not have done with his young friend, I would urge you to try and write simpler things first before trying to tackle a piano concerto.  I read elsewhere that you’re only 13 years old, and you have only been composing for a year and a half.  Give yourself some time writing smaller things before trying this.  You’ll know when you’re ready to move on to bigger things.    

However, since nothing I say is likely to stop you if you have your mind set on trying to build Hoover Dam with a box of Lego, as it were, @aMusicComposer has given you some wisdom about not expecting too much from your first effort (with which I concur), as well as some good advice about studying a book on orchestration – and Rimsky-Korsakov’s is a great one for what you seem to be envisioning.  As for planning in advance, it appears you already know something of what you want to do as far as basic things like key, metre, tempo, and instrumentation go.  Now all you need are some ideas, and no one can teach you how to come up with those.

Good luck to you, and keep us informed of your progress!  

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