Fantasie

My first attempt at AAB (then a lil a) form

Score?

The beginning to this is perfect. The interwoven flutes and strings sound wonderful. 

A beautiful atmosphere you've created. I would have liked it if the music took off a little more at some point. For it's length it is okay, but I feel like you could have gotten more out this piece.

I too would be interested in seeing the score. You use some pretty interesting chord progressions I would like to analyze. If you don't have a score, would you mind sharing some of the progressions you used? Like the one in your first A section (0:00 - 0:38)

I noticed the orchestration stays more or less the same throughout. I think if you varied the instrument textures you used it would add a lot more interest. 

For example, try using a lighter orchestration on your first statement of your A section. Then when you restate it starting at 0:38, add in more instrument sections for emphasis. For your B section, maybe you could use a different instrument as the lead voice (such as the woodwinds) and gradually crescendo up until the return of the A theme at 1:54. Then it will be much more dramatic when everything backs off and the strings return with the A theme. Just some thoughts, feel free to leave it as it is if you disagree.

Also, what sounds did you use to make this?

2 hours ago, gmm said:

I too would be interested in seeing the score. You use some pretty interesting chord progressions I would like to analyze. If you don't have a score, would you mind sharing some of the progressions you used? Like the one in your first A section (0:00 - 0:38)

 

Gb major => Bb7 => Eb7 (with added eleventh) => ab minor 11 => Bb minor => Bb major => E maj7 => Bb sus4 => Bb major => E major (with added lydian at the beginning) => Eb minor  => Abmaj/Db => E major => Eb minor => E maj/Amaj => Db maj 

I want to start making scores too, Im just starting out as a composer so im not sure where to start. Do you think logic is a good place to make scores or should I use something else?

2 hours ago, gmm said:

II noticed the orchestration stays more or less the same throughout. I think if you varied the instrument textures you used it would add a lot more interest. 

For example, try using a lighter orchestration on your first statement of your A section. Then when you restate it starting at 0:38, add in more instrument sections for emphasis. For your B section, maybe you could use a different instrument as the lead voice (such as the woodwinds) and gradually crescendo up until the return of the A theme at 1:54. Then it will be much more dramatic when everything backs off and the strings return with the A theme. Just some thoughts, feel free to leave it as it is if you disagree.

Also, what sounds did you use to make this?

 

interesting, I tried doing that but I think I could've done it with more force, I was thinking it should be subtle but I dont know a lot about orchestration yet.

I used eastwest hollywood orchestra

10 hours ago, DirkH said:

A beautiful atmosphere you've created. I would have liked it if the music took off a little more at some point. For it's length it is okay, but I feel like you could have gotten more out this piece.

 

thank you, I am trying to get to a point where I can truly be expressive and paint with more colors and textures, and use of dynamics is probably one of my weak spots.

38 minutes ago, Left Unexplained said:

I want to start making scores too, Im just starting out as a composer so im not sure where to start. Do you think logic is a good place to make scores or should I use something else?

I've never used Logic, so I can't speak to it personally. But a DAW is generally best for making your composition sound the best that it can, while a program like Sibelius or Finale is best for making a score that looks really good. Personally, I use Cubase to compose and get my music sounding exactly as I want it, then export the midi file into Sibelius to edit the score.

I know these programs can get real pricey real quick, but there should be some budget options out there if you're just starting out. Here's an article with a few suggestions:

https://www.careersinmusic.com/best-music-writing-software/

47 minutes ago, Left Unexplained said:

interesting, I tried doing that but I think I could've done it with more force, I was thinking it should be subtle but I dont know a lot about orchestration yet.

What composers do you like? Find some of their scores and try to emulate them. You can find most public domain scores from the masters at imslp.org.

ok, thanks!

1 hour ago, Left Unexplained said:

Gb major => Bb7 => Eb7 (with added eleventh) => ab minor 11 => Bb minor => Bb major => E maj7 => Bb sus4 => Bb major => E major (with added lydian at the beginning) => Eb minor  => Abmaj/Db => E major => Eb minor => E maj/Amaj => Db maj 

The E maj lydian chord has such a nice effect, but if you ask me it's weakened by the E maj7 we hear just two bars before it. I think it might sound more dramatic if we didn't hear the E major chord until it is presented with the lydian extension in the fifth bar. Below is an example. (The red chords are my revisions, the harmonic rhythm is the same as yours above.)

1 hour ago, Left Unexplained said:

Gb major => Bb7 => Eb7 (with added eleventh) => ab minor 11 => Ab dim 7 => Ab dim 7 => Bb min7 => Bb minor => Bb minor => E major (with added lydian at the beginning) => Eb minor  => Abmaj/Db => E major => Eb minor => E maj/Amaj => Db maj 

Only a suggestion of course, feel free to ignore.

59 minutes ago, gmm said:

The E maj lydian chord has such a nice effect, but if you ask me it's weakened by the E maj7 we hear just two bars before it. I think it might sound more dramatic if we didn't hear the E major chord until it is presented with the lydian extension in the fifth bar. Below is an example. (The red chords are my revisions, the harmonic rhythm is the same as yours above.)

Only a suggestion of course, feel free to ignore.

 

interesting. ill check it out after i get done working today