bkho Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 Just for fun, here are some quotes (or alleged quotes) concerning famous composers hating on other fellow composers. Can you guess who they are? As a clue, I'll provide nationalities. Try not to use the internet to look them up. No cheating..... 1. "A dull fellow who composes the same form over and over." - A Russian about an Italian 2. "I have played over the music of that scoundrel. What a giftless bastard!" - A Russian about a German 3. "The prospect of having to sit through one of his extended symphonies or piano concertos tends quite frankly to depress me. All those notes.... to what end?" - An American about a Russian 4. "A composer for one right hand." - A German about a Pole 5. "His music sounds like Bach on the wrong notes." - A Russian on another Russian 6. "He would have been a great composer if his teacher spanked him enough on his backside." - A German about an Italian I'll post answers tomorrow. 1 Quote
Tónskáld Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 I'll take a stab at these. They are complete guesses, so if any of them are correct, I'll be shocked, lol. 13 hours ago, bkho said: 1. "A dull fellow who composes the same form over and over." - A Russian about an Italian The Italian could definitely be Vivaldi, but since I don't know of any Russian composer during the Baroque era (and since I'm assuming these quotes are about contemporaries), I'm going to say it is Tchaikovsky insulting Verdi. 13 hours ago, bkho said: 2. "I have played over the music of that scoundrel. What a giftless bastard!" - A Russian about a German This sounds like something Prokofiev would say. But about whom is the question... perhaps Schoenberg? 13 hours ago, bkho said: 3. "The prospect of having to sit through one of his extended symphonies or piano concertos tends quite frankly to depress me. All those notes.... to what end?" - An American about a Russian There aren't too many famous American composers, so I'll say this is Copland talking about Shostakovich. 13 hours ago, bkho said: 4. "A composer for one right hand." - A German about a Pole The US and Poland are in the same boat here—only a handful of famous composers. Perhaps this is Wagner disparaging Chopin. 13 hours ago, bkho said: 5. "His music sounds like Bach on the wrong notes." - A Russian on another Russian I don't... Prokofiev insulting Stravinsky. Or vice versa. 13 hours ago, bkho said: 6. "He would have been a great composer if his teacher spanked him enough on his backside." - A German about an Italian Beethoven about... I have no idea who his Italian contemporaries were. Boccherini? I'm done now. 1 Quote
Noah Brode Posted July 16, 2020 Posted July 16, 2020 I'll take some guesses. Some of these are pretty wild, so have mercy on me. 1. Tchaikovsky on Verdi was a good guess, but I'll go for something different... Borodin about Rossini? OK, from here on out, I'm going to try not to look at any of @Tónskáld 's guesses. 2. Rachmaninoff about Brahms? 3. Hmmm.... Gershwin about Rachmaninoff? 4. Brahms about Chopin? 5. Tough one. Shostakovich about Stravinsky? 6. Beethoven about Vivaldi? 1 Quote
Vogel Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 1. Stravinsky on Vivaldi, I believe. Not sure about any of the others, though I've heard 4 and 5 before. The target of 6 might be Rossini, said by Beethoven, but that's just a guess. 1 Quote
Left Unexplained Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 all of them were hans zimmer about himself 1 2 Quote
Theodore Servin Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 I only know no. 2 is Tchaikovsky ranting about Brahms in his personal journal. The rest are a mystery to me. 1 Quote
bkho Posted July 17, 2020 Author Posted July 17, 2020 Here are the answers: 1. "A dull fellow who composes the same form over and over." - A Russian about an Italian Stravinsky referring to Vivaldi (there's another supposed quote of him deriding Vivaldi for composing the same piece 500 times but that is likely apocryphal) 2. "I have played over the music of that scoundrel. What a giftless bastard!" - A Russian about a German Tchaikovsky referring to Brahms. Tchaikovsky was quite jealous of Brahms' fame though in their one documented meeting, they actually got along quite well. 3. "The prospect of having to sit through one of his extended symphonies or piano concertos tends quite frankly to depress me. All those notes.... to what end?" - An American about a Russian Copeland referring to Rachmanioff. 4. "A composer for one right hand." - A German about a Pole Wagner referring to Chopin 5. "His music sounds like Bach on the wrong notes." - A Russian on another Russian Prokofiev referring to Stravinsky 6. "He would have been a great composer if his teacher spanked him enough on his backside." - A German about an Italian Beethoven referring to Rossini Thanks! 2 Quote
Noah Brode Posted July 17, 2020 Posted July 17, 2020 Well, I got 4 / 6 of the people who were insulted, but 0 / 6 of the people who were doing the insulting. That's a win in my book. Thanks @bkho, this was fun 2 Quote
Tónskáld Posted July 18, 2020 Posted July 18, 2020 Lol, I did the exact opposite of @Noah Brode—I got the insultors but not the insultees. 4/6 on the insultor and 2/6 on the insultee. Quote
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