Oboe & Clarinet part playable in this Trio? Any oboist or clarinetist to read and comment?

I had feedback from a composer that this is not a piece suitable for oboe and clarinet. Because their strength is to create very melodic lines.

This piece builds the disoriented, chaotic feeling gradually, not aim for beautiful lines; at very high register for oboe, it doesn't aim for beautiful sounds either.

Would appreciate if any oboist and clarinetist would read this and tell me what they think. 

Thank you !!

I used to play Clarinet and I personally would probably have a hard time executing some of the tremolos and repeated notes like you have in meas. 30.  The tremolos would obviously have to be triple-tongued (EDIT: they could also be double-tongued which might make things easier) which would put a slight stress on the beginning of every group of three repeated notes.  And in meas. 30, only the last three notes of each sextuplet would be articulated.

This is quite an intense piece you've written!  I do have to say you seem to write for the winds more like a string player.  Thanks for sharing!

I have never heard tremolo written for a clarinet, until now! 
I agree with paper composer as usual. 

I see. Everyone, thank you so much for this. I have so little understanding of woodwinds. It does help!

11 hours ago, PaperComposer said:

 

 

Prof. oboist here - the only thing that sticks out to me is the tremolo - I'm guessing you're wanting a flutter tongue here? Not all oboists can do that and it's not necessarily something that's regularly taught, even in extended techniques. I would say offer an option for a timbre trill for a similar effect, in case the oboist can't flutter tongue. There's a great book for contemporary oboe techniques by Libby Van Cleve, called "Oboe Unbound: Contemporary Techniques," if that's your kind of thing. Hope this helps!

On 1/14/2021 at 11:01 PM, cnwheel said:

Prof. oboist here - the only thing that sticks out to me is the tremolo - I'm guessing you're wanting a flutter tongue here? Not all oboists can do that and it's not necessarily something that's regularly taught, even in extended techniques. I would say offer an option for a timbre trill for a similar effect, in case the oboist can't flutter tongue. There's a great book for contemporary oboe techniques by Libby Van Cleve, called "Oboe Unbound: Contemporary Techniques," if that's your kind of thing. Hope this helps!

 

Thank you for this. I don't play any woodwind, brass etc and know so little about them. It does help a lot. 

I'm writing a solo oboe piece right now; was just about the post and ask if oboist play "scoop" like clarinetist / brass players do (in more modern pieces)?

I googled but can't find anything. 

I'll go find that book too. Thank you so much!

No problem, happy to help!

For scooping, do you mean pitch bends? Those are pretty doable for just about everyone, but in fast succession or a glissando (like clarinet in Rhapsody in Blue, for example), they don't really work and may not be as defined as you want, depending on the oboist.

I see. Thank you for this! I appreciate it. 🙂