DoYourDailyDuo Posted May 31, 2021 Posted May 31, 2021 Hi, It's my first post on this website, and my first "reasonable length" composition, so please be kind to me. I've composed a piece called 'The Storm'. It's been written for solo piano. Please feel free to comment and critique on my work, and upvote this post so that more people can see it. Here's the MuseScore link. If you can't access that, here's the URL: https://musescore.com/user/37307285/scores/6799675. Many thanks: DoYourDailyDuo 1
Vonias Posted May 31, 2021 Posted May 31, 2021 4 hours ago, DoYourDailyDuo said: It's my first post on this website, and my first "reasonable length" composition, so please be kind to me. DailyDuo, you are asking for trouble in this statement. Anyway, in the composition, you sound very much similar to Beethoven. However, it should be the other way around; Beethoven is a guest in your originality. Give him your hills, mountains, rests, an entire world to explore! Very much enjoyed the technicality of your composition.
DoYourDailyDuo Posted June 1, 2021 Author Posted June 1, 2021 13 hours ago, GospelPiano12 said: I love this piece. Thank you GospelPiano12! What specifically do you like about it? Or is there any way I could improve?
GospelPiano12 Posted June 1, 2021 Posted June 1, 2021 The measures where you have those 4 beat chords are kind of unnecessary, in my opinion. To me they seem to stop the beautiful flow you have in this piece.
DoYourDailyDuo Posted June 1, 2021 Author Posted June 1, 2021 2 hours ago, GospelPiano12 said: The measures where you have those 4 beat chords are kind of unnecessary, in my opinion. To me they seem to stop the beautiful flow you have in this piece. I intended to make represent the storm.
DoYourDailyDuo Posted June 1, 2021 Author Posted June 1, 2021 Just now, DoYourDailyDuo said: I intended to make represent the storm. *I intended to represent the storm.
DoYourDailyDuo Posted June 1, 2021 Author Posted June 1, 2021 (edited) On 5/31/2021 at 3:21 PM, Vonias said: Thank you for your positive feedback! Can you proofread one of my compositions please? Edited June 1, 2021 by DoYourDailyDuo
caters Posted June 1, 2021 Posted June 1, 2021 Uh, that is basically what I composed here with a few melodic and harmonic alterations: Why would you be plagiarizing my work, without even saying that my work inspired you to write it? I mean, it's not as much of a big deal because I'm expanding the Weather Music Suite that that piece was part of to a full orchestra, but still, it feels wrong that I'm not credited. 2
PeterHM Posted June 1, 2021 Posted June 1, 2021 Hello there! It's also my first time commenting, so: I enjoyed your piece a lot. I may be wrong, but I feel like you were inspired by the romantic style, since the emotion and the dynamic changes very quickly. I liked, as someone commented above, the "flow" you achieved here, and the broken octaves are a surprising accompaniment. I have, though, a few observations: The "flow" of the music is often times interrupted by sequences of chords, wich happens twice with the same harmonies. I know you said you wanted to represent the storm, but then the storm shouldn't be interrupted! It would work better to have these harmonic passages as arpeggios, in my opinion. That way, the piece would mantain some of its momentum (not saying it can't stop, I just don't think sudden halts work in favour of your symbolism). You made melodies that have phrases with five measures. Don't get me wrong, there's nothing necessarily wrong with that, I just think, considering the romantic inspiraton that I sensed in your piece, that it would benefit more from a more rigid structure ( periods with 8 measures and phrases with 4 measures). I rewrote, if you don't mind, the first melodic phrase, which I annexed as an mp3.Annex.mp3 You ended the piece with a F major chord which gives it an unresolved feeling. Usually pieces end in the tonaliy they began, or in the relative major/minor. Personally, I would have ended it with a major C chord, after a diminuendo and perhaps a ritardando on the tempo, to convey that the storm is passing, and a calmer and stable weather has arrived (or you could say that the struggle has ended and the musician has found peace). It was nice to analyse a piece of music made by someone else; I hope it made me improve, and that I can help you improve as well. Anyway, you are definitively in the right way. Cheers! MP3 Play / pause JavaScript is required. 0:00 0:00 volume > next menu Annex > next
chopin Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 @DoYourDailyDuo can you please acknowledge this? 1 hour ago, caters said: Uh, that is basically what I composed here with a few melodic and harmonic alterations:
AKAChristopher Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 On 5/31/2021 at 5:46 AM, DoYourDailyDuo said: Hi, It's my first post on this website, and my first "reasonable length" composition, so please be kind to me. I've composed a piece called 'The Storm'. It's been written for solo piano. Please feel free to comment and critique on my work, and upvote this post so that more people can see it. Here's the MuseScore link. If you can't access that, here's the URL: https://musescore.com/user/37307285/scores/6799675. Many thanks: DoYourDailyDuo i think that next time you should endeavor to do something original. you seem to have the chops. so do it. like the below (pay attention YCers. away with warmed over Beethoven; away with it I say! (((sorry)))))
caters Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 1 hour ago, AKAChristopher said: i think that next time you should endeavor to do something original. you seem to have the chops. so do it. like the below (pay attention YCers. away with warmed over Beethoven; away with it I say! (((sorry))))) And he plagiarized my piece as I posted above! It's not just that it is very Beethovenian, it's literally my piano draft with a few harmonic and melodic changes(mostly harmonic by the looks of it). Not that I mind so much that it is my piano draft, because I've already expanded my Weather Music Suite out to a full orchestra instead of the piano solo it started as, but not getting credited for it is making me a bit upset. 1
PeterthePapercomPoser Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, caters said: but not getting credited for it is making me a bit upset. I would be upset too if it were me. He basically just took your piece and called it his own. No composer should be allowed to do that on this forum as it undermines the good faith that works posted are original and of your own efforts. I didn't think anyone would stoop so low but I guess some people feel like they've accomplished something when they just blatantly copy someone else's work?
caters Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, PeterthePapercomPoser said: I would be upset too if it were me. He basically just took your piece and called it his own. No composer should be allowed to do that on this forum as it undermines the good faith that works posted are original and of your own efforts. I didn't think anyone would stoop so low but I guess some people feel like they've accomplished something when they just blatantly copy someone else's work? I guess. But if he plagiarized this piece of mine, what's going to stop him from plagiarizing one of my larger works like my first finished orchestral work for instance? Someone needs to stop him before that happens! Near death of Young Composers and now this, plagiarism on my work? I'm not feeling comfortable here anymore. Not that I will leave, I won't, but I'm definitely feeling uncomfortable here.
PeterthePapercomPoser Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, caters said: I'm not feeling comfortable here anymore. Not that I will leave, I won't, but I'm definitely feeling uncomfortable here. I think the fact that you've posted your works here on this site is to your credit though because there is a clear record of the original composition being submitted by you way earlier than he did so in a sense - you're safe here.
caters Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, PeterthePapercomPoser said: I think the fact that you've posted your works here on this site is to your credit though because there is a clear record of the original composition being submitted by you way earlier than he did so in a sense - you're safe here. Yeah, I know. It's just, I've never had my works plagiarized before. I don't know, maybe I'm overreacting a bit.
AKAChristopher Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 2 hours ago, caters said: It's not just that it is very Beethovenian extend beyond Beethoven, like this (in terms of style and originality, not making any claims or disparaging remarks about musical content): https://musescore.com/user/38804742/scores/6802730?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=score_score_upload_success_pro&utm_content=20210602 read my 'manifesto' about extending ourselves as artists and creators. this is key to this discussion.
SSC Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 I'd say that this is outright grounds for banning, honestly. This also raises the question of what ELSE has this guy plagiarized, so I would err on the side of caution and just remove/hide all his other posted music as well. Leaving this be does not set a good precedent.
Thatguy v2.0 Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, caters said: Yeah, I know. It's just, I've never had my works plagiarized before. I don't know, maybe I'm overreacting a bit. You're not overreacting, this dude literally stole your music. Ban him. Do your daily duo and gtfo. Oh, and caters, nice piece. Did you ever finish? He left off where you were unfinished... Edited June 2, 2021 by Thatguy v2.0
AngelCityOutlaw Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 11 hours ago, caters said: Uh, that is basically what I composed here with a few melodic and harmonic alterations: Why would you be plagiarizing my work, without even saying that my work inspired you to write it? I mean, it's not as much of a big deal because I'm expanding the Weather Music Suite that that piece was part of to a full orchestra, but still, it feels wrong that I'm not credited. This is why one should not post sheet music or MIDI publicly. It is not necessary to critique music, but also opens you up to plagiarism big time. That is clearly what has happened here. What's shocking is the sheer boldness of it all by posting it on the same forum he stole it from. This is like trying to sell a car back to the same lot you boosted it from and thinking no one will notice. Seriously, ban this 2
Thatguy v2.0 Posted June 2, 2021 Posted June 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, AngelCityOutlaw said: Seriously, ban this best reply ever
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