cloud10000 Posted December 2, 2021 Posted December 2, 2021 this is my new piece, hope everone's commentation the video: 【微分音钢琴】作品5之3 无标题_哔哩哔哩_bilibili MP3 Play / pause JavaScript is required. 0:00 0:00 volume > next menu Op5 Nr3 > next PDF Op5 Nr3 score Quote
Quinn Posted December 3, 2021 Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) Doesn't come across as microtonal but I think that'll be a problem with a standard piano anyway. It needs an entirely new tuning and playing technique. Your work sounds tonal with a bit of diversion thrown in - and the bass with the pedal down sounds muddy. The microtones dotted here and there sound like an out-of-tune piano - because a) there aren't enough of them and b) the piece is mostly tonal. But it's a bold effort for which: well done. It would make a good backing for a dramatic episode in a silent movie. Possibly you could consider moving away from tonality - not to entirely atonal, just more chromatic with carefully planned discords (added non-harmony notes) as you have in places in your work. Possibly start without a key signature but devise something more on the black notes. It can still have melody and some tonal harmony. Also, reduce the pedal a bit. For pioneering work, have a listen to Alois Haba's String Quartets. His microtonal works for piano don't seem to work too well. His string quartets and ensemble pieces work better. Some are 1/4 tone, some 1/6 tone. I think there are a few on youtube. Try this for a 1/6 tone piece. Edited December 3, 2021 by Quinn Quote
Quinn Posted December 4, 2021 Posted December 4, 2021 Your piece prompted me to think back to my own experiments with 1/4 tone piano music. I didn't get very far - for a start I don't have a microtone piano (though it was perfectly possible on an analogue synthesiser that I built). So I set 2 pianos in the DAW. The pitch of piano 2 was offset by 1/4 tone. What I learned was that if you establish microtones at the very start - the ear adapts sooner than if the microtones happen later in a piece that starts off and continues tonally for a while before the microtones creep in. Anyway, I pulled one of these experiments out from the archive!! If you're interested, here it is. It isn't anything like your piece. It's mostly slow and uses pedal a lot. I was more interested in sonorities and how it worked with various intervals so there's no real tune, mostly just harmony. It's microtonal all right! However I hate to presume on someone (also hate self-quoting) so if you'd prefer - ignore it. MP3 Play / pause JavaScript is required. 0:00 0:00 volume > next menu Quarter exper 1 150417 256 > next Quote
cloud10000 Posted December 5, 2021 Author Posted December 5, 2021 5 hours ago, Quinn said: Your piece prompted me to think back to my own experiments with 1/4 tone piano music. I didn't get very far - for a start I don't have a microtone piano (though it was perfectly possible on an analogue synthesiser that I built). So I set 2 pianos in the DAW. The pitch of piano 2 was offset by 1/4 tone. What I learned was that if you establish microtones at the very start - the ear adapts sooner than if the microtones happen later in a piece that starts off and continues tonally for a while before the microtones creep in. Anyway, I pulled one of these experiments out from the archive!! If you're interested, here it is. It isn't anything like your piece. It's mostly slow and uses pedal a lot. I was more interested in sonorities and how it worked with various intervals so there's no real tune, mostly just harmony. It's microtonal all right! However I hate to presume on someone (also hate self-quoting) so if you'd prefer - ignore it. MP3 Play / pause Quarter exper 1 150417 256 0:00 0:00 volume > next menu Quarter exper 1 150417 256 > next MP3 Play / pause Quarter exper 1 150417 256 0:00 0:00 volume > next menu Quarter exper 1 150417 256 > next thank you very much! Quote
Luis Hernández Posted December 6, 2021 Posted December 6, 2021 I think this work has sense, since you can move between two extremes (mcrotonal and not). It's true that your work sounds very "classical", except in some parts. Anyway, I like it. Some chords are too dense in the bottom part of the register. Quote
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